Corporal John or Joseph Cave, Cabinet Maker. Liverpool Regim

[Anne Daulby1]

Hello Everyone,

I have recently found a very battered Army Form dated 15 January 1898 from The Adjutant of 2 (?) V B Lpool Regt.

The form is addressed to Corp J Cave and I think it says the following:

The Commanding Officer notices with regret that you have passed the age which permits you to continue to serve as a Volunteer & asks you to send in your resignation. This step being obligatory, the C.O. begs to thank you for your valuable service to the Batl (?). He has granted permission for you to retain your uniform.

The letter seems to be signed by The Adjutant and a corporal.

J Cave repliedon the same form on 27th January 1898 as follows:

In reply to yours I beg to hand you my resignation as requested. Yours J Cave.

The form is very difficult to read, it is in copperplate writing and the ink is quite faded, I have translated it as best I can.

The J Cave can either be my great Grandfather Joseph Cave or my great great grandfather John Cave, both of whom were Cabinet Makers. I think it is more likely to be for John. I also have a very old and battered pictues of someone in a military uniform, this might also be John.

Can anyone throw any light of what the 'Liverpool Regt' on the form might be and how I can do some further research on the regiment?

Thank you.

[daggers]

The Liverpool Regiment is one form of the title of what became 'The King's Liverpool Regiment', and 2nd VB were the second volunteer battalion until 1908 when the Territorial Force was formed and the battalions were renumbered. The 2nd, I think, became 6th Battalion, King's in the Territorial Force and later in the Territorial Army after WW1.
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[Tina]

Hi Anne
Welcome aboard.
Was there any address or suburb?
I've found a John Cave cab maker in 1894 directory
2 Head St Tox Park.

Good luck!
Tina

[Anne Daulby1]

Thank you both for replying so quickly! I am impressed and grateful for the help.

Daggers: Thank you for that information. It seems that my next stop is The National Archives to see if they have any information.

Tina: Yes, that's John. His address was 2 Head Street when he died. it seems that it was a family tradition for them to be cabinet makers, there are qute a few of them showing on the Census's. I have got three chairs in my attic which we tink that he made!

Thanks again.

Anne.

[daggers]

Anne
I am not sure how much the National Archive will have about the Volunteer units of pre-1908. There is some material in Liverpool Record Office under ref: M356 RIF, which might have some background information, and there is another archive of King's Liverpool material at the Maritime Museum Archives near the Pier Head. Check times of opening via Google before calling!

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[Tina]

Thank you Anne for reply and I do hope your chairs were made by John, how fantastic would that be!
You could take one along to Antiques Roadshow

Just to help the peeps, John is 65 widr bn Ire in 1901 census address as mentioned, living with married dghtr & son in law, grandees.
Still working, own account at home.

Good luck with search tips from Daggers.

By the way Joseph bn 1857 Lpl is listed as an upholster in census & in 1891/1901 he's living in Wigan, not sure if this helps with the documentation.

Tina