Toxteth Park 1841

Post by **LisElliot** » 10 Apr 2009 10:16

I wonder if anyone can offer an explanation re the 1841 census return for King Street Toxteth Park. My relative Thomas Elliot - stonemason lived there but none of the houses? have numbers allocated. Could this have been a poor house or similar?
To look him up you have to search for his son William b 1837ish.
Any help would be gratefully received.
Lis

Post by **MaryA** » 10 Apr 2009 10:34

The reference for checking purposes is
HO107; Piece 568; Book: 12; Civil Parish: Toxteth Park; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 47; Folio: 9; Page: 9

I can't find anything for the street by googling, and I don't know anything about King Street, a great pity we lost the Toxteth.net site, but I can say that it was far from unusual for roads not to have house numbers at that time.

When you say "poor house" I doubt it was anything like a workhouse, but it may not have been a particularly wealthy area as some of the families in the street are living two in one household, again not unusual at that time, although your Elliots seem to have a dwelling to themselves.

Post by **LisElliot** » 10 Apr 2009 10:37

Thanks for that.

Post by **jan44** » 10 Apr 2009 15:27

King Street was in the vicinity of Fylde Street and Park Road, I don't know what the houses would have been like back then.

I tried various street directories, but couldn't get anything on King Street, and I could only find Park Road on a map of 1838 which is on Tony Swarbrick's website. But King St or Fylde Street don't seem to be on the map. (unless the writing is too small for my eyes).

http://www.leverpoole.co.uk/1.001/m/ben ... kroad.shtm

Jan

Post by **daggers** » 10 Apr 2009 15:59

My trusty map directory of South Lancs (1930s) has Fylde Street indexed as adjacent to Essex St [the latter between Park Road and Mill St, well-known to scallies] but it does not show on the map. King St is not listed apart from one by South Castle Street, which is probably not Toxteth.
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Post by **daggers** » 10 Apr 2009 16:35

The Godfrey Edition map - Toxteth 1906 - shows Fylde Street, between Essex St and Gaskell St. Very short, with few houses.
No sign of King St, though. Older maps, anyone?
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Post by **LisElliot** » 10 Apr 2009 17:16

Thanks guys. I have a map from toxteth.net, date unknown. King Street runs between Park Place and Mill Street beyond Northumberland Street.
Also in the area are Prophet St, Dooley St and Hughes St. St Johns baptist church is beyond it and Dr Hughes Stone quarries are opposite.