There is the following entry in the 1824 Baines Liverpool Name Directory
Mason Thos. cow keeper, Hyde park
Would anybody have any ideas where this would have been at that time please?
Hyde Park - Liverpool? 1824
Hyde Park - Liverpool? 1824
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Can't think of a Hyde Park, but a man of the same name is in Pigot's 1828-9 Directory as a livery stable keeper in 'Toxteth Park Road'.
Could be a red herring, and I think that it means horses kept for hire rather than liverish!
Cow keepers, dairymen and farmers do not get a look-in from Pigot.
D
Could be a red herring, and I think that it means horses kept for hire rather than liverish!
Cow keepers, dairymen and farmers do not get a look-in from Pigot.
D
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I certainly hope sodaggers wrote:Could be a red herring, and I think that it means horses kept for hire rather than liverish!

Thanks for your thoughts on this, I'd never heard of Hyde Park either.
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Just a thought. Could Hyde Park be the same place as High Park mentioned in the "History of Toxteth Park." It reads: "To the southward is the rising ground called High Park on which are situated numerous houses, church, windmills, etc. and on the margin of the shore the Herculaneum Pottery".
No doubt some of the crew will have more knowledge of the area than I do.
MB
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Hi MB,
Thanks for your thoughts, it seems very likely doesn't it, and I would guess that the nowadays High Park Street must be in pretty much the same area.
I have to admit that I really don't know as this was an entry in a Name Directory and as it's earlier than censuses it's very difficult to match up.
Mary
Thanks for your thoughts, it seems very likely doesn't it, and I would guess that the nowadays High Park Street must be in pretty much the same area.
I have to admit that I really don't know as this was an entry in a Name Directory and as it's earlier than censuses it's very difficult to match up.
Mary
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Re: Hyde Park - Liverpool? 1824
I was just looking through some old posts and this name rang a bell, it's the same street name as on a will from 1874 of my g.g.g.grandfather.


Povall Cheshire/Liverpool, Williams/Owens Caernarvon, Brown Liverpool/Cumberland/Ireland, Pritchard Liverpool, Atherton Liverpool, Banks Liverpool, Kelly IOM, Grimes/Botworth/Smith Wirral, Rice Manchester/Ireland, Lockley Manchester, Bowler Manchester.
Re: Hyde Park - Liverpool? 1824
That would seem to clinch it I think, Hyde Park became High Park (Street). Tried to confirm by finding Henry Povall in the censuses but he was in a Court in Twiss Street in 1871 and not found in 1881.
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Re: Hyde Park - Liverpool? 1824
By 1880 he was showing in the USA census. He had a very varied career and it took me a long time to follow this man, I used to call him the Mystery Man lol. In the 1880 census he is a physician.MaryA wrote:That would seem to clinch it I think, Hyde Park became High Park (Street). Tried to confirm by finding Henry Povall in the censuses but he was in a Court in Twiss Street in 1871 and not found in 1881.

A few of the details on here are wrong there was no P middle name unless he took one up in his preaching career and he was born in Bunbury not Beeston.
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Povall Cheshire/Liverpool, Williams/Owens Caernarvon, Brown Liverpool/Cumberland/Ireland, Pritchard Liverpool, Atherton Liverpool, Banks Liverpool, Kelly IOM, Grimes/Botworth/Smith Wirral, Rice Manchester/Ireland, Lockley Manchester, Bowler Manchester.