McMillan Family after 1901

[Paul_Evans22]

My great aunt Liverpool-born Edith Brown b.1877 (Liverpool Record Office; Ref: 283 EMM/2/2) married Stanraer-born John McMillan b.14.10.1872 in Liverpool in 1896. They appear together in the census for 1901 living in Everton with their daughter Ethel Christina McMillan. She was born on 29.9.1900 (Liverpool Record Office; Ref: 283 EMM/2/4). Baptism records indicate that Edith and John also had a son John Alexander McMillan, born the following year on 4.9.1902 (Liverpool Record Office; Ref: 283 WBK/2/3). I have not been able to trace any of them after this having checked a variety of Ancestry records for marriages, deaths etc. They have simply slipped off the radar. Should I assume the family may have emigrated? I looked at some transatlantic passenger lists but none of the names that come up fit the bill. The worst scenario is that the McMillans must have died at some point in the 10 years before the date of the 1911 census but I am hopeful the family had just moved away. John was an iron moulder by trade. I wondered if the transcription of their surname on the 1911 census return was incorrect but I've been checking records for variations via Ancestry - without success. The correct spelling is McMillan - as used by John when he married Edith. Any help or signposting would be welcomed and much appreciated.

[dickiesam]

Hello Paul,
Your subject line is referring to the Mitchell family, but the post is about the McMillans?

Have you checked if the McMillan family went up to Scotland before 1911? There is no sign of them in the outgoing passenger lists before 1911. You say John's occupation was an iron moulder but in the 1901 he is shown as a painter.
For the benefit of the eyes here the reference is RG13 - 3426 - 76 - 23.

I thought they may have gone to Ireland and they wouldn't appear on any passenger list because Ireland was still part of the UK. Unfortunately hey don't appear in the Irish 1911 census.

The only death I could find was this one. The death may have occurred in late March. The census was on Sunday 2 April, 1911.
Death: MCMILLAN, John
Registration district: West Derby
Year/qtr of registration: 1911 / Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 38
Volume no: 8B; Page no: 239

[MaryA]

Your subject line is referring to the Mitchell family, but the post is about the McMillans?
For the benefit of the crew here RG13 - 3426 - 76 - 23.

Subject line changed to save confusion.

I always think it worthwhile quoting the full census to assist others who may not have access to them, also giving address and details of others in the household, in this case they were family members so might prove useful.

1901
43, Stonehill Street, Walton On The Hill, Liverpool
John Macmillan Head M 28 Painter Worker Stranraer, Scotland
Edith Wife M 23 Lancashire Liverpool
Ethel C daur 6 months " "
Harold Brown Brother in Law S 18 Shipping Clerk Worker " "
Benjamin " 14 Shop Boy " "

[MaryA]

Could you also give us the details from the marriage certificate - ie father's names, witnesses etc.

[MaryA]

Something I find coincidental is that ten years later Harold Brown is boarding with a Mary Elizabeth Leitch at 27 Wenlock Road, Anfield. He is still a shipping clerk, aged 27 and also boarding there is a May McMillin who is a single 38 year old Insurance Agent, born Liverpool.

[Tina]

Good find Mary, don't think I've ever come across a female insurance agent back then.

There is a tree in Anx, very little about them, John married at St Benedicts 27.12.1896 coach painter living at 13 Hamilton Rd.
Ethel bapt 17.10.1900 Emmanuel.

There's a death in Salford for a John Alexander McMillan bn 4.9.1902
march qtr 1975.

[Paul_Evans22]

One of my senior moments as I knew John McMillan was a painter by trade. The iron moulder I mistakenly included in my original post was the occupation of the husband of his wife's younger sister, so sorry for the confusing start to my query!! The Harold Brown referred to in the 1901 / 1911 census was my grandfather. Benjamin was his younger brother who later died on active service in WW1. My grandfather lived into the 1920s. Until I started to research the family, I never knew he had any siblings, all of whom I have now discovered went on to marry and have families of their own.

Whilst I have tracked everyone else, the whereabouts of my grandfather's older sister Edith, her husband John and their two children after the 1901 census is puzzling me. I might follow up the Salford death record for a John Alexander McMillan with same birth date to see if he had been born in Liverpool as this might signpost me to new information.

Thanks to everyone for taking this one up.

[MaryA]

But who is May McMillin?

[Tina]

Hi I cannot find a death in WW1 records for Benjamin Brown.
Pls can you send more info?
Thank you

[Paul_Evans22]

Tina - Benjamin Woodrow Brown died of wounds on 7.10.1918. I have located his grave at the Lapugnoy Military Cemetery via the Commonwealth Graves War Commission site. His death is also referred to on the headstone for the family grave, and has been commemorated on the Military Roll of Honour at Liverpool's Town Hall which I visited last week.

MaryA - May McMillin is an unknown. Referred to as a lodger on the census record and I guess that's what she is. I have found nothing via my research to suggest she is a sibling of the John McMillan who married my great aunt, and she is too old to be one of their children.

[MaryA]

I think if it is possible, you should take a little time and research May McMillin, seems to me too much of a coincidence not to be connected somewhere down the line, possibly an aunt or other relation, and if you discover what it might just give you another clue.

Sorry to suggest you waste time if it turns out to be a red herring but ... leave no stone unturned as they say.