Henry Hyde Blakey

Post by **lorry** » 07 Mar 2011 03:39

Hi,
Does anyone know of Henry Hyde Blakey - He was superintendent of Pilotage in 1940 at Liverpool. He married Gertude Ann Wilkinson. He is listed as Master Mariner but have not been able to find records relating to this in The National Archives. He died in 1964 but I have no idea where he or Gertrude are buried.
Thanks
Lorry

Post by **Hilary** » 07 Mar 2011 09:07

What was his address at death? This would help us make suggestions as to where he may be buried.

Post by **MaryA** » 07 Mar 2011 11:18

The only obvious entry that I see about that date died in Ashton in 1963 aged 45, this wouldn't seem to be a likely person to have held that office in 1940. Is it possible he died outside Lancashire?

I don't see an entry for a Gertrude Ann Blakey, could she have remarried?

Post by **Katie** » 07 Mar 2011 11:48

You could try the Maritime Archives at the Albert Dock for records relating to him

Post by **dickiesam** » 07 Mar 2011 18:21

For the crew.....

He was born in 1876 so in 1940 he would have been 63. Very near retirement? Births Dec 1876> BLAKEY, Henry Hyde - Salford - 8d - 108.

He and Gertrude married in Birkenhead, Sept qtr 1903, and 8 years later are living at 31 Strathcona Road, Liscard, Wallasey, Cheshire. According to my good friend Crystal Ball, he is a Chief Officer.

He died aged 87: Henry H Blakey - 87 - St Asaph - 8A - 452 - 1964 Sep qtr.
If Gertrude predeceased him it is likely he is buried with or near her?
She was born in Yorkshire. She says Sheffield but fairly confident this is her:
Births Sep 1875> WILKINSON, Gertrude Ann - Hull - 9d - 213.

DS

Post by **dickiesam** » 07 Mar 2011 20:06

Think this could be Gertrude's death?

Blakey, Gertrude A - aged 79 - Wallasey - 10A - 507 - 1954 Sept qtr.

DS

Post by **MaryA** » 07 Mar 2011 20:52

Well done DS.

In the circumstances I think an enquiry to Landican Cemetery would be the way forward as this is where the cemeteries and crematorium for the Wirral are managed. They may need a more definite date than just the quarter and year, but it's worth a try first of all anyway.

http://www.wirral.gov.uk/my-services/co ... cemeteries

Post by **dickiesam** » 07 Mar 2011 21:23

Found there was just one possible birth to Henry and Gertrude's marriage:
Blakey, Barbara H - Birkenhead - 8A - 1068 - Jun qtr 1915.

Could not see an immediate match for a Barbara H marriage although there are several plain Barbara ones. Then came across this one in St Asaph, where Henry died in 1964.

BLAKEY, Barbara and JONES, Malcolm R.
Registration district & county: St. Asaph, Denbighshire.
Year & qtr of registration: 1966 - March.
Volume: 8A; Page: 1071

Probably a coincidence.. Or had she been looking after her father?

DS

Post by **lorry** » 08 Mar 2011 06:25

Hi,
Thanks to all of your replies, this is what I know
Henry Hyde Blakey was born Oct 1876, Manchester and died in July 1964, St.Asaph, Denbighshire.
He married Ann Gertrude Wilkinson 1903 Birkenhead, Merseyside.
Ann was her name in all Census records and living with her Mother, Annie & Father William Henry Wilkinson. I have her birth year as 1874 Ecclesall, Bierlow, Sheffield Yorkshire.
She died as Gertrude in Jan 1962 at Ystradgynlais, Breconshire, Wales.
As far as their daughter, Barbara goes, born 1915 at Birkenhead, I did not have a marriage for her so will look in to the one that you have found.
This family of Wilkinson females does not seem to have produced any offspring except for Barbara. So if anyone has any clues to her marriage and family I would be most grateful.
There was another sister, Alice. who married Christian Lorck Gerhardsson Wiese in 1915. She was born 1872 in Ecclesall, Bierlow and died Oct 1949 in Wallasey, Cheshire. She also died without issue as she was 43 when she married.
I will try the cemetery that you have suggested. Maybe one of them will be there.
Any further info would be wonderful
Thanks
Lorraine

Post by **Tina** » 08 Mar 2011 08:43

For the crew
In 1901 Gertrude 24 bn Sheffield is visiting with Blakey family in Stretford.

We need to find her with sister Sarah (see other post) together in census to prove birthplace.

Tina

Post by **MaryA** » 08 Mar 2011 09:44

lorry wrote: So if anyone has any clues to her marriage and family I would be most grateful.

I think Dickiesam has done a great job there, although it is going to cost you money the only way to be certain if this is the correct entry is by means of certificates - the death may have registered by Barbara in which case hopefully it will give her married name. The marriage certificate will confirm her father's name.

lorry wrote: I will try the cemetery that you have suggested. Maybe one of them will be there.

The cemetery holds the information for all of the Wirral, not just for Landican.

Post by **lorry** » 08 Mar 2011 23:49

Hi DS and all,
I have a copy of all census records - will only write person & birth place

1871 - 87 South Street, Sheffield
Dad, Mum & Sarah E born Yorkshire, Sheffield 5mths

1881 - 8 Priory Terrace, Ecclesall, Bierlow, Sheffield
Dad, Mum, Sarah E born (as above) 10 Yrs, Alice born (same) 9 yrs & Ann G born (same) 7 yrs, William B (my Grandfather) born 13 Dec 1874, Ecclesall Bierlow 6 yrs

1891 - 13 Whitefield, Heaton Norris, Stockport.
Same info as above but Sarah E is now a Private Governess
Father, William Henry Wilkinson dies in 1891 - daughter Alice is the informant living at 13 Whitefield Road, Heaton Norris, Stockport.
I found his entry in the Wirral Cemetery listings (thankyou)
William B has joined the RN I think this is why the family moved to Stockport

1901 - 14 Radnor Drive, Lisgard
Annie (Mum), Helen - Assistant teacher C school born Yorkshire, Sheffield 29yrs
Alice 28 yrs born (same)

1901 - 33 Moreton Avenue, Stretford, Lancaster
Gertrude is living at the Blakey househould (as you mentioned) as a Retail Saleswoman

1936 - Christian Lorck Gerhardsson Wiese dies (Alice's husband) 4th Nov 1936 at 6 Glenn-park Road, Wallasey
1940 - Mother, Ann Wilkinson dies 20th October at 27 Castle Road, Wallasey
1941 - Sarah Helen Wilkinson dies 6th Jul 1941 at Birkenhead Institution, Derby-road, Higher Tranmere
1949 - Alice Wiese dies Oct qtr 1949 at Wallasey
1954 - Gertrude A Blakey dies (thanks for this, I will purchase her DC)
1964 - Henry Hyde Blakey dies in July (according to Oxton Lodge No3462 records)

I think that the whole family must be buried somewhere near Wallasey. If you have any other clues, please let me know, you have been most helpful
Thanks
Lorraine

Post by **Tina** » 09 Mar 2011 09:39

oops I just posted 1881 on the other post

and asked if you needed 1891

Tina

Post by **MaryA** » 09 Mar 2011 09:57

And have you yet contacted the Cemeteries and Crematoria Office, as suggested in a couple of posts above?

Post by **dickiesam** » 09 Mar 2011 11:58

Hi Lorraine,
A couple pf points...
Re

Oxton Lodge No3462 records

Are you saying that Henry H Blakey was a Freemason?

Re RG12 / 2794 /132 /4....
The family in Stockport in 1891 certainly appear to be the right one, but I doubt they are there because of any connection with William joining the Navy [Royal or Merchant?]. Stockport was, as you will see from Google Earth, not a a seaport but a town in east Cheshire a long way from the sea, although on the south bank of the River Mersey. Stockport is now part of the Greater Manchester area. I would say the family being in Stockport is much more likely to do with the father's profession, travelling salesman -provisions- [as in groceries].

Incidentally, 19 year old Alice's occupation certainly fits the area. Stockport was at the centre of the country's hatting industry which by the mid 1880s was exporting more than six million hats a year.

And I am puzzled..

I found his entry in the Wirral Cemetery listings

If William Wilkinson, the father, died in Stockport why was he buried on the Wirral, a long way away with no apparent prior connection to the area? That came quite a few years later when his widow and daughters were living in Liscard, Wallasey in 1901. RG13 / 3402 / 63 / 12.

DS

Post by **Hilary** » 09 Mar 2011 17:23

William Henry Wilkinson aged 46 years death was recorded, according to www.cheshirebmd.org.uk, in 1891 in Heaton Norris.

If this is your man I'm not sure what you mean by Wirral Cemetery Listings. There is no one Wirral cemetery and they do not appear to have their burials on the internet.

I would expect him to be buried locally to Heaton Norris.

Post by **lorry** » 09 Mar 2011 22:59

Hi DS
Yes, Henry Hyde Blakey was initiated on 6th March 1923, and on the 3rd Nov 1937 he was installed as Master of the Lodge. He remained in the Lodge until his death in Jul 1964 (according to the records)

I have ordered 5 death certificates from the GRO and so will not be able to chase up the cemeteries until I have their death dates.
That is interesting that the family moved to Stockport but it does make sense.
William Beastall Wilkinson joined the Royal Navy as midshipman on 24th Jul 1891 and served his apprenticeship on 'Lancaster Castle'
I do have a lot of his Navy and Merchant Navy logs and records so it is not him that I need the info on. I have been working on him for 13 years. He finished as Captain in the Merchant Navy for Australia.
I am sorry about telling you that the father, William Henry Wilkinson was buried at Wirral, I meant to say Stockport.
I will now chase up what I can with the dates that I have at the moment.
Is there a Cheshire District telephone book on line?
Thanks
Lorraine

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