In 1901 at Toxteth Park Reformatory School for Girls, Park Hill Road, Liverpool, Lancashire
Nellie Cox (Mary Ellen) is age 14 a Scholar born about 1887 Wombwell, Yorkshire.
She is my grandmother.
Her sister Annie Cox
On 31st March 1901 Warwickshire Girls Reformatory School, 61, Little Park Street, Coventry
Annie Cox is age 16 Scholar born about 1885, Sheffield.
Their father Joseph M Cox
On 31st March 1901 Westgate, Rotherham Yorkshire. in a Lodging House
Joseph Cox is married lodger age 47, occupation Navvy, born about 1854 Attercliffe. I have been unable to find mother Mary Ellen Cox and younger siblings Lily and Joseph Cox.
Can anyone tell me how I can find out why the 2 eldest children Nellie (my grandmother)and Annie Cox were sent there and why they were separated?
My father told me that the Cox family lived next door to the Mooneys (of Sheffield gangs Wars fame)
Toxteth Reformatory School
Cox family
Hi,
Have you checked out this death?
Deaths Jun 1891> Cox, Mary Ellen - 31 - Saddleworth - 9a - 262.
I know the age is 4 years out from that in the 1891 census, but that wouldn't be unusual.
In 1901, there's a Lily Cox, bn Yorkshire [says Sheffield, but could be an error]: Liverpool Juvenile Reformatory For Girls, Mount Vernon Green, West Derby, Lancashire. RG13 / Piece:3495 / Folio:74 / Page:44.
Also in 1901, there's a Joseph Cox here:
COX, Joseph - Boarder - 11 - 1890 - Cleckheaton, Yorkshire.
Address: 34 Copley Hall Terrace, Halifax, Yorkshire (West riding).
RG13 / Piece:4126 / Folio:114 / Page:5.
Can't offer any suggestions about why the girls were in reform schools etc, other than if the mother had died maybe the family disintegrated and they became 'naughty' girls in order to survive. I'd try to find archived records of the schools you know about. Might find why they were there. Didn't take much in those days to get yourself 'put away' by a magistrate. 75 years earlier a 15 year old child was transported to Australia for stealing a shirt!
Dickiesam
Have you checked out this death?
Deaths Jun 1891> Cox, Mary Ellen - 31 - Saddleworth - 9a - 262.
I know the age is 4 years out from that in the 1891 census, but that wouldn't be unusual.
In 1901, there's a Lily Cox, bn Yorkshire [says Sheffield, but could be an error]: Liverpool Juvenile Reformatory For Girls, Mount Vernon Green, West Derby, Lancashire. RG13 / Piece:3495 / Folio:74 / Page:44.
Also in 1901, there's a Joseph Cox here:
COX, Joseph - Boarder - 11 - 1890 - Cleckheaton, Yorkshire.
Address: 34 Copley Hall Terrace, Halifax, Yorkshire (West riding).
RG13 / Piece:4126 / Folio:114 / Page:5.
Can't offer any suggestions about why the girls were in reform schools etc, other than if the mother had died maybe the family disintegrated and they became 'naughty' girls in order to survive. I'd try to find archived records of the schools you know about. Might find why they were there. Didn't take much in those days to get yourself 'put away' by a magistrate. 75 years earlier a 15 year old child was transported to Australia for stealing a shirt!
Dickiesam
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Cox family
Many thanks for the info, have been stuck with the Cox family for years. Looks as though you may have chipped off a bit more for me.
I will send off for the death cert (even though Joseph her husband still describes himself as "married and not widower).
I will also try and contact Sheffield Archives to see if they have any existing court orders or the like.
There are no surviving records for Toxteth Park.
On Joseph Cox (Snr)
1861 Emmett Carr Eckington and Renishaw
Jerimiah Buxton is head of the household married a miner age 35 born about 1827 in Staveley, Derbyshire. His wife is Fanny Buxton wife is age 37 born about 1824 in Sheffield Yorkshire. Adopted son is Joseph Cox Buxton age 7 born scholar about 1854 in Yorkshire.
On April 2nd 1871 Barlborough Common, Nottinghamshire
Jerimiah Buxton is head of the family age 43 Farmer of 30 acres born about 1828 Staveley, Derbyshire. Fanny Buxton is his wife age 47 born abt 1824 Attercliffe, Yorkshire. Joseph Buxton is age 17, son born abt 1854 Attercliffe, Yorkshire. Emma Johnson is age 16 General Servant born abt 1855 Worksop, Nottinghamshire.
On 3rd April 1881 Barlborough Village, Derbyshire
Jeremiah Buxton is head of the household married age 52 Coal miner born Staveley, Derbyshire about 1829. Sarah Buxton is his wife age 37 born about 1844 Blyth, Nottinghamshire. Children born in Barlborough are; Clara Buxton daughter age 3 born about 1878 and Adelaide Buxton age 6 month born 1880.
Joseph M Cox is border and Coal miner born about 1854, Yorkshire
On Dec 5th 1882 Parish Church of Barlborough, Derbyshire Married by Banns
No 264
Joseph Moore COX of full age Bachelor and Miner of Barlborough, Father John COX, Cutter.
Mary Ellen MOORE age 19 Spinster of Barlborough Father John MOORE Labourer.
Mary Ellen MOORE made her mark. Witnesses werre Benjamin MOORE, made his mark and Elizabeth MARSHALL also made her mark.
On 5th April 1891 at 5 Copper Street, Barnsley, West Riding Yorkshire Joseph M Cox is married head of the household age 37 Coal miner born about 1854 Attercliffe, Sheffield. His wife is Mary E Cox age 27 born about 1864 Leverton Notts , children are: Fanny B Cox age 8 born about 1883 Barlbrough Derbyshire, Annie Cox age 6 born about 1885 Wosbrough, Yorks, Mary E Cox age 4 born about 1887 Wombwell, Yorks, Lily Cox age 2 born about 1889 Aston, Yorkshire and Joseph M Cox age 3 months born 1891 Barnsley, Yorkshire.
So, Joseph Cox Buxton, Joseph Buxton, Joseph M Cox and finally Joseph Moore Cox! He did name his eldest daughter Fanny Buxton Cox, the only one who seems to have escaped an institution.
Again many thanks
I will send off for the death cert (even though Joseph her husband still describes himself as "married and not widower).
I will also try and contact Sheffield Archives to see if they have any existing court orders or the like.
There are no surviving records for Toxteth Park.
On Joseph Cox (Snr)
1861 Emmett Carr Eckington and Renishaw
Jerimiah Buxton is head of the household married a miner age 35 born about 1827 in Staveley, Derbyshire. His wife is Fanny Buxton wife is age 37 born about 1824 in Sheffield Yorkshire. Adopted son is Joseph Cox Buxton age 7 born scholar about 1854 in Yorkshire.
On April 2nd 1871 Barlborough Common, Nottinghamshire
Jerimiah Buxton is head of the family age 43 Farmer of 30 acres born about 1828 Staveley, Derbyshire. Fanny Buxton is his wife age 47 born abt 1824 Attercliffe, Yorkshire. Joseph Buxton is age 17, son born abt 1854 Attercliffe, Yorkshire. Emma Johnson is age 16 General Servant born abt 1855 Worksop, Nottinghamshire.
On 3rd April 1881 Barlborough Village, Derbyshire
Jeremiah Buxton is head of the household married age 52 Coal miner born Staveley, Derbyshire about 1829. Sarah Buxton is his wife age 37 born about 1844 Blyth, Nottinghamshire. Children born in Barlborough are; Clara Buxton daughter age 3 born about 1878 and Adelaide Buxton age 6 month born 1880.
Joseph M Cox is border and Coal miner born about 1854, Yorkshire
On Dec 5th 1882 Parish Church of Barlborough, Derbyshire Married by Banns
No 264
Joseph Moore COX of full age Bachelor and Miner of Barlborough, Father John COX, Cutter.
Mary Ellen MOORE age 19 Spinster of Barlborough Father John MOORE Labourer.
Mary Ellen MOORE made her mark. Witnesses werre Benjamin MOORE, made his mark and Elizabeth MARSHALL also made her mark.
On 5th April 1891 at 5 Copper Street, Barnsley, West Riding Yorkshire Joseph M Cox is married head of the household age 37 Coal miner born about 1854 Attercliffe, Sheffield. His wife is Mary E Cox age 27 born about 1864 Leverton Notts , children are: Fanny B Cox age 8 born about 1883 Barlbrough Derbyshire, Annie Cox age 6 born about 1885 Wosbrough, Yorks, Mary E Cox age 4 born about 1887 Wombwell, Yorks, Lily Cox age 2 born about 1889 Aston, Yorkshire and Joseph M Cox age 3 months born 1891 Barnsley, Yorkshire.
So, Joseph Cox Buxton, Joseph Buxton, Joseph M Cox and finally Joseph Moore Cox! He did name his eldest daughter Fanny Buxton Cox, the only one who seems to have escaped an institution.
Again many thanks