Johnson

[simone]

Henry aka William Henry in 1901
RG13; Piece: 3427; Folio: 59; Page: 20.
3 Chesney? Street
William Henry Donaky 46 Able Seaman b Liverpool
Elizabeth Donaky 39 b Ireland
James Donaky 16 son Boiler Scaler
Michael Donaky 14 son greengroceries assistant
Elizabeth E Donaky daur12
Florence M Donaky daur 10
Edward P Donaky 8 son

all children born Liverpool.

Simone x

[simone]

The children on the 1901 look to be Elizabeth's to her previous husband Michael
1891 census
3 in 10 Court, Hampton St
RG12; Piece: 2924; Folio: 70; Page: 28

Michael Hart 33 dock labourer
Elizabeth Hart 21
James Hart 5
Michael Hart 4
Elizabeth Hart 2
Florence M Hart 3/12


still not found any of the Donakey's in 1891 though
wonder what happened to the child William Henry they had in 1887?
Have they all gone travelling and Margaret died whilst away?

Simone x

[dickiesam]

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[simone]

Allan, deaths at sea will not be recorded in the GRO indexes transcribed by FreeBMD.

Death: DONAKEY, W H
Date of death: February 1910
Age: Not entered
Place of death: Not entered
Belonging to service: Not entered
Ship: Not entered
Series: BT334 - Registers and Indexes of Births, Marriages and Deaths of Passengers and Seamen at Sea
Box:0047

Ahh nice one Brian

Elizabeth is a widow by 1911
RG14; Piece: 22239
254 Beaufort Street
Elizabeth Donakey 48
Elizabeth Campbell 22 daughter
Florence Hart 20 daughter
Edward Hart 18 son
John Donakey 8 son

wonder why Elizabeth is Campbell.. census states she is single.. mistake maybe

Simone x

[allanpshepherd123]

Hello dickiesam

Let me summarise so far!

William Henry Donakey (Mariner) who married Margaret Jane Johnson in October 1883 has now died at sea in February 1910 still married to Elizabeth Donakey nee Hart which was his (and her) 2nd marraige?

Previously as a widow of Margaret Jane Donakey Henry Donakey (Mariner) married Elizabeth Hart (who was in turn a widow) on 07/01/1898?

So when did Margaret Jane Donakey nee Johnson died? since William Henry Donakey son of William Henry Donaky and Maryaret Jane Donaky (spellings as below) was baptised on 16th February 1887!

Best Regards
Allan

[simone]

I can't see her death... would she be listed in deaths at sea also... I believe some wives went with their mariner husbands. Could their son William Henry have died too?

Still no sign of John Johnson/Donakey in 1891 either reckon they are all away together somewhere

Simone x

[dickiesam]

I can't see her death... would she be listed in deaths at sea also... I believe some wives went with their mariner husbands. Could their son William Henry have died too?

Still no sign of John Johnson/Donakey in 1891 either reckon they are all away together somewhere
Simone x

No death for Margaret Jane D, on land or at sea, and none for young William either. I reckon she may have moved in with a 'new' spouse as a common-law wife with a new surname with her child. Perhaps before hubby died?

[allanpshepherd123]

Hello dickiesam

"OK... this is a snippet for the back-burner, for consideration if we find the marriage of Ephraim and Jane somewhere in Ireland, probably in the North, and discover her father is a Joseph.

From FamilySearch, of no particular significance now... it's a maybe...
Name: Jane Laverty
Baptism/christening date: 27 Nov 1814
Baptism/christening place: DONAGHMORE, TYRONE, IRELAND
Father's name: Joseph Laverty
Mother's name: Elizabeth"

According to the 1851 census whilst at 52 Wright Street Jane Johnson nee Laverty was 30 so she was not born until 1821/1822. This has also been consistant throughout other census.

Best Regards
Allan

[dickiesam]

OK Allan, my mistake. I have amended my post.

[allanpshepherd123]

Hello

I have searched Ancestry this afternoon and I am trying to find where the Johnson Family below lived when the 1891 and the 1901 census was done when they had Family. I have put John (head) and Phebe (wife) in the search engine but the only possible is someone in Blackburn with no children..Can anyone help please? Am I doing something wrong?

Hilda Primrose Johnson was born 19/04/1910 to John Johnson born 23/02/1870 and Phoebe Abigail Johnson nee Colyer born 17/06/1873. They were married 10/08/1890. The 1911 census for 58 Morville Street Toxteth Park Liverpool shows:
John Johnston (head) 40
Phebe Johnston (wife) 38
Phebe Johnston (d'tr) 20
Mary Ellen Johnston (d'tr) 18
Henriette Johnston (d'tr) 16
Margrette Johnston (d'tr) 11
Lena Johnston (d'tr) 7
Eva Johnston (d'tr) 4
Hildia Johnston (d'tr) 11/12
Henry Heaney (lodger) 21

Best Regards
Allan

[MaryA]

I think you are being too precise with the spelling of Phebe, try using Phoebe. 1901 has them living at 66 South Street RG13; Piece: 3435; Folio: 180; Page: 11.

Checking 1891 now.

[MaryA]

Spelled Johnson in 1891, living with the Collyers at 17 Beamish Street RG12; Piece: 2928; Folio: 41; Page: 28

[dickiesam]

Hi Allan,
The family are here in 1901.... I looked for Phoebe bn 1890.

Birth: JOHNSON, Phoebe Colyer
Registration district: Toxteth Park
Year of registration: 1890; Sep qtr
Volume no: 8B; Page no: 244

RG13 Piece: 3435 Folio: 180 Page: 11
Address: 64 South Street, Toxteth Park, Lancashire
JOHNSTON, John Head Md 30 1871 General Lab - Liverpool, Lancashire
JOHNSTON, Phoebe Wife 27 1874 - Liverpool, Lancashire
JOHNSTON, Phoebe Dtr 10 1891 - Liverpool, Lancashire
JOHNSTON, Mary Ellen Dtr 8 1893 - Liverpool, Lancashire
JOHNSTON, Henrietta Dtr 6 1895 - Liverpool, Lancashire
JOHNSTON, Margaret Dtr 1 1900 - Liverpool, Lancashire

Back to find them in 1891.....! But, Mary A beat me to it....

[MaryA]

But, Mary A beat me to it....

Got to get up early today to beat me

[dickiesam]

But, Mary A beat me to it....

Got to get up early today to beat me

I know, I know! But the early birds don't have all the fun!

[allanpshepherd123]

Hello dickiesam and Mary A

Thank you so much, I have still not got the hang of it!! More practice, practice, practice needed.

Best Regards
Allan

[dickiesam]

Hello dickiesam and Mary A

Thank you so much, I have still not got the hang of it!! More practice, practice, practice needed.

Best Regards
Allan

For forenames and surnames I always use the variations option if available, and usually search for the youngest child [less likelihood of an age error], and have to say often resort to using a wild card in a name such as John* for Johnson, Johnston, Johnstone, etc. Don't know about Ancestry but FMP allows a 'forename only search' in censuses and you can include the forename of another resident who 'should' be present in the household.

[allanpshepherd123]

Hi

Many thanks for previous information.

Simone previously gave me this information but I cannot locate address at time of census for 1861, can anyone help? I have found the parents but cannot read address and there are no children mentioned!!

RG 9; Piece: 2733; Folio: 68; Page: 18
Ephram Johnson 42 labourer, b Ireland
Jane Johnson 39 b ireland
John Johnson 19 labourer b Ireland
Charles Johnson 10 b Ireland
Magaret Jane Johnson 12 b Liverpool
Ephram Johnson 3 b Liverpool
Elisabeth Johnson 6 b Liverpool
William Johnson 1 b Liverpool

Best Regards
Allan

[dickiesam]

That address is 6 Court, Falkner Street, West Derby, Liverpool.

[allanpshepherd123]

Hi dickiesam

Many thanks, found it again and just realised the children are on the next page!!

Best Regards
Allan