Emigration to British Columbia

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Re: Emigration to British Columbia

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MaryA wrote:We don't agree, sorry, certificates or at the very least copy Parish Registers are an absolute must to be sure you are following the right people.
Leigh,
I second MaryA's comment absolutely. 'Collecting' tentative lines of research or names is not a good idea. You should only work on a couple of lines at most and confirm or discard them at each step you take. To confirm or discard requires a copy of the original document source, as Mary A says, in the form of certificates or copies of parish registers.

As previously intimated there is a lot of 'background' that can be gleaned from certificates, from fathers' names and occupations, the ages and occupations of the couple to addresses and the names of witnesses.
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Re: Emigration to British Columbia

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Thank guys for the advice.

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Re: Emigration to British Columbia

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Correction

I have just discovered that the correct details for the subject of this search are as follows:

George Percival ELSTON baptised 19.7.1900 (St Cuthbert, Everton)

Sorry to all those who searched for the incorrect name.

I have discovered that his uncle emigrated to British Columbia and this was possibly the motivation for George to go too.
His uncle, Alfred Newby BOYLE (b. 28.7.1883 Liverpool) married on 3 .2.1910 in Vancouver, British Columbia. (IGI)

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Re: Emigration to British Columbia

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leigh wrote:Correction

I have just discovered that the correct details for the subject of this search are as follows:

George Percival ELSTON baptised 19.7.1900 (St Cuthbert, Everton)

Sorry to all those who searched for the incorrect name.

I have discovered that his uncle emigrated to British Columbia and this was possibly the motivation for George to go too.
His uncle, Alfred Newby BOYLE (b. 28.7.1883 Liverpool) married on 3 .2.1910 in Vancouver, British Columbia. (IGI)
There are no George Elston entries 1890 to 1935 with a birth year near 1900 in the outgoing passenger lists. Where is the rest of the information from the baptism cert? Haven't found a matching George Percival Elston birth in the preceding 10 years. He may have been a very late baptism, for example when converting to the RC faith.

There is one George P Elston however...
ELSTON, George Phoenix
Registration district: Sculcoates, Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1900; Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Volume no: 9D; Page no: 248
And he is with his parents in Sculcoates in 1901 and the following census.

Oddly I haven't found Alfred [or Fred] Boyle bn abt 1883 in the passenger lists either. Makes me think they were both seaman. What was Alfred's occupation when he married and where did the marriage information come from?

Interesting? In 1901 Alfred is at home with his parents:
BOYLE, Alfred - Son - u/m - 18 - Ship steward - Liverpool, Lancashire.
Address: 82 Melrose Road, Kirkdale, Lancashire.
RG13 - Piece: 3468 - Folio: 31 - Page: 3
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Re: Emigration to British Columbia

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Hi, Is this your Alfred,
Groom Name: Alfred Newley Boyle
Bride Name: Frances Amelia Watson

Event Date: 1910 2 3 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Event Place: Vancouver

Reg. Number: 1910-09-060077
B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B11374
GSU Microfilm Number: 1983702

Name: Alfred Newby Boyle, Death Registration

Event Date: 1961 10 18 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Age: 78
Gender: male
Event Place: Vancouver

Reg. Number: 1961-09-012008
B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13253
GSU Microfilm Number: 2033374

Not quite who you were looking for.
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Re: Emigration to British Columbia

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Is this the baptism you mean?

Baptisms: 29 Aug 1900 St Cuthbert, Everton, Lancashire, England
George Percival Elston - Child of George William Elston & Maud
Born: 19 Jul 1900
Abode: 155 Walton Breck Rd.
Occupation: Clerk
Baptised by: J. H. Garnett

These are his siblings

Baptisms: 16 Mar 1904 St Cuthbert, Everton, Lancashire, England
May Elston - Child of George William Elston & Maud
Born: 27 Dec 1903 [sic]
Abode: 155 Walton Breck Rd.
Occupation: Clerk
Baptised by: J. H. Garnett
Register: Baptisms 1899 - 1924, Page 122, Entry 6
Source: LDS Film 2147911

Baptisms: 18 Jul 1906 St Cuthbert, Everton, Lancashire, England
Harold Newby Elston - Child of George William Elston & Maud
Born: 27 Dec 1905
Abode: 155 Walton Breck Rd.
Occupation: Clerk
Baptised by: J. H. Garnett
Register: Baptisms 1899 - 1924, Page 174, Entry 5
Source: LDS Film 2147911

Baptisms: 18 Oct 1911 St Cuthbert, Everton, Lancashire, England
Annie Elston - Child of George William Elston & Maud
Born: 12 Sep 1909
Abode: 155 Walton Breck Rd.
Occupation: Clerk
Baptised by: Henry Mellor
Register: Baptisms 1899 - 1924, Page 277, Entry 8
Source: LDS Film 2147911

Baptisms: 18 Oct 1911 St Cuthbert, Everton, Lancashire, England
Mary Elston - Child of George William Elston & Maud
Born: 6 Sep 1911
Abode: 155 Walton Breck Rd.
Occupation: Clerk
Baptised by: Henry Mellor
Register: Baptisms 1899 - 1924, Page 278, Entry 1
Source: LDS Film 2147911

Baptisms: 22 Apr 1917 St Cuthbert, Everton, Lancashire, England
Daisy Elston - Child of George William Elston, Deceased & Maud
Born: 10 Jan 1917
Abode: 144 Walton Breck Road
Occupation: Clerk
Baptised by: E. A. Ingham M. A. Ass. Curate
Register: Baptisms 1899 - 1924, Page 380, Entry 3
Source: LDS Film 2147911

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Re: Emigration to British Columbia

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George W married Maude Boyle 1893 at Kirkdale St Mary.

Your George Percival Elston is christened as George but appears to be registered as

Thomas Percival Elston Sept Q 1900 West Derby District volume 8b page 464

He is listed as Thomas with his parents around 1910

Father George William dies in June Q 1917.
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Re: Emigration to British Columbia

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Thank you everyone for your input.

Alfred Newby BOYLE
Dickiesam's questions about Alfred Newby BOYLE are answered by Johnhoul's information. I don't know what Alfred's occupation was, but I have taken the details of Dickiesam's find - re. ship steward. (Alfred's father, George Mack BOYLE, was a shipwright and carpenter and other family members were involved with shipping).

George/Thomas Percival ELSTON
Hilary has the source of the baptism and that of his siblings (except for a further sister Maud ELSTON born 1894)
On Maud's marriage certificate Thomas Percival ELSTON appears as a witness.


Maybe the correction was its self incorrect!!! If so sorry again!

It doesn't help that within the family he was only ever known as 'Percy'!

Thanks again one and all. Maybe I'll give 'Percy' a rest for awhile.

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