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On the FHS,it says of my Grandfather -Baptism 733 High St. Dublin. Birth Place High St. Dublin. 1869. He surely was't baptised at home, or is 733 High St. a Church? I'am aware Irish Civil Registration started 1864, so perhaps an old Dublin map would give me a clue. His name was Samuel Howard Chadwick.
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seeker 8041
Old Dublin
Re: Old Dublin
Hi,
High Street, Dublin, is a surprisingly short street on the south side of the River Liffey slightly to the west of the city centre. It is where Christchurch Cathedral in located and St. Audeon's Church. Google Earth has a great view of it. It is now a short stretch of dual-way.
However I can't imagine a number 733 High Street. Been down it many times! Blink and you are through it! Could you post site URL where that address is shown?
I looked at the Irish Government sponsored website http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/
and did a search. Got a hit which indicates the information you got from FHS is not correct.
Area - DUBLIN (C-of-I), Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. PETER
Baptism of SAMUEL HOWARD CHADWICK of 25 ONGERS ST on 28 March 1869
Name: SAMUEL HOWARD CHADWICK
Date of Birth: 9 March 1869
Address: 25 ONGERS ST
Father: ALBERT HOWARD CHADWICK
Mother: HESTHER CHADWICK
Father's occupation: MACHINE BROKER
Book Number: N/R - Page: 20 - Entry Number: N?R
Record_Identifier: DU-CI-BA-207485 - Image Filename: d-45-2-16-020
This link should take you to the relevant parish page with the entry:
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 16-020.pdf
And this for St Peter's Church: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter' ... et,_Dublin
On Google Earth the church would have been located on the south east corner of the junction of York Street and Aungier Street.
High Street, Dublin, is a surprisingly short street on the south side of the River Liffey slightly to the west of the city centre. It is where Christchurch Cathedral in located and St. Audeon's Church. Google Earth has a great view of it. It is now a short stretch of dual-way.
However I can't imagine a number 733 High Street. Been down it many times! Blink and you are through it! Could you post site URL where that address is shown?
I looked at the Irish Government sponsored website http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/
and did a search. Got a hit which indicates the information you got from FHS is not correct.
Area - DUBLIN (C-of-I), Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. PETER
Baptism of SAMUEL HOWARD CHADWICK of 25 ONGERS ST on 28 March 1869
Name: SAMUEL HOWARD CHADWICK
Date of Birth: 9 March 1869
Address: 25 ONGERS ST
Father: ALBERT HOWARD CHADWICK
Mother: HESTHER CHADWICK
Father's occupation: MACHINE BROKER
Book Number: N/R - Page: 20 - Entry Number: N?R
Record_Identifier: DU-CI-BA-207485 - Image Filename: d-45-2-16-020
This link should take you to the relevant parish page with the entry:
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ ... 16-020.pdf
And this for St Peter's Church: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter' ... et,_Dublin
On Google Earth the church would have been located on the south east corner of the junction of York Street and Aungier Street.
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Re: Old Dublin
There is an old map of Dublin online http://www.failteromhat.com/maps/dublincity1829.php a bit earlier than the date you are looking at, but even then High Street seems a very short street, somewhat as it is now. St Audeons is on the street and Christchurch the Cathedral only round the corner. But 733 seems a very strange number, which is the site you found the baptism on and can we see it?
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Names - Lunt, Hall, Kent, Ayre, Forshaw, Parle, Lawrenson, Longford, Ennis, Bayley, Russell, Longworth, Baile
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Re: Old Dublin
On MaryA's map look for St Stephen's Green. It's a large parkland area and can't be missed. On the west side is York Street and this runs across Aungier Street. The latter is pronounced, strangely, Ayn-jier or Ayn-jer Street! 
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Re: Old Dublin
Nice one DS, lovely to have a resident know all about Ireland. 
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Re: Old Dublin
Der yar now!MaryA wrote:Nice one DS, lovely to have a resident know all about Ireland.
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Old Dublin
Hello Dickiesam and Mary A
Just a quick reply for now! ( I have to go and watch Ireland against Croatia)I will have to learn how to do the link. A......y also have the index wrong. I had words with them on the phone. They agreed, based on the info. in the St. Peter's page to put an alternative name in their index. I will certainly look at the maps supplied. I am amazed and grateful for all information given to me from friends on the Forum. Come on Ireland!!!
seeker 8041
Just a quick reply for now! ( I have to go and watch Ireland against Croatia)I will have to learn how to do the link. A......y also have the index wrong. I had words with them on the phone. They agreed, based on the info. in the St. Peter's page to put an alternative name in their index. I will certainly look at the maps supplied. I am amazed and grateful for all information given to me from friends on the Forum. Come on Ireland!!!
seeker 8041
Re: Old Dublin
I am updating the thread to include information from my PM sent in response to your PM to me.
Because of the find in the actual church records that I posted, I do think there is a strong possibility that there is a transcription error. Basically there is not, and never was, a property #733 High Street. I think you should order a copy of the birth registration from the Irish GRO. There is probably a very simple explanation for the 'incorrect' entry.
An old Irish cert is basically the same as an old English one in layout. Column 1 is for the registration number and Column 2 is for the date and place of birth. I believe 733 is the cert number and it has been read in conjunction with the place of birth High Street, Dublin. I have over 50 Irish birth certs and on several of them the unknowing eye could read the cert number as the street number. And it is very seldom that you will get a street number in Column 2 on an Irish cert.
Here are a couple of samples from my collection to demonstrate what I think.
Because of the find in the actual church records that I posted, I do think there is a strong possibility that there is a transcription error. Basically there is not, and never was, a property #733 High Street. I think you should order a copy of the birth registration from the Irish GRO. There is probably a very simple explanation for the 'incorrect' entry.
An old Irish cert is basically the same as an old English one in layout. Column 1 is for the registration number and Column 2 is for the date and place of birth. I believe 733 is the cert number and it has been read in conjunction with the place of birth High Street, Dublin. I have over 50 Irish birth certs and on several of them the unknowing eye could read the cert number as the street number. And it is very seldom that you will get a street number in Column 2 on an Irish cert.
Here are a couple of samples from my collection to demonstrate what I think.
DS
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Emery, McAnaspie/McAnaspri etc, Fry, McGibbon/McKibbion etc, Burbage, Butler, Brady, Foulkes, Sarsfield, Moon [Bristol & Cornwall].
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Member # 7743
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Re: Old Dublin
To dickiesam
Thanks for your examples and PM, and also the address for online certificates which I was unable to find until now. I will order the cert. in question and hope it clears things, not least the name of the Father.
Once again thanks for everything.
seeker 8041
Thanks for your examples and PM, and also the address for online certificates which I was unable to find until now. I will order the cert. in question and hope it clears things, not least the name of the Father.
Once again thanks for everything.
seeker 8041