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Re: JAMES BICKERSTAFF

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Found the other's on Lancs OPC
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Baptisms: 17 Dec 1832 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Agnes Bickerstaff - Child of Robert Bickerstaff & Ellen
Born: 20 Nov 1832
Abode: St Andrew St
Occupation: Joiner

Baptisms: 17 Jul 1834 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Sarah Jane Bickerstaff - Child of Robert Bickerstaff & Ellen
Born: 1 Jul 1834
Abode: St. Andrew St.
Occupation: Joiner

Baptisms: 31 Aug 1836 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Robson Bickerstaff - Child of Robert Bickerstaff & Ellen
Abode: Saint Andrew Street
Occupation: Joiner

Baptisms: 24 May 1838 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Robert Bickerstaff - Child of Robert Bickerstaff & Ellen
Abode: St. Andrew St.
Occupation: Joiner

Baptisms: 3 Mar 1842 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Robert Bickerstaff - Child of Robert Bickerstaff & Ellen
Abode: Dalton Street West Derby
Occupation: Joiner

Baptisms: 23 Apr 1843 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
James Bickerstaffe - Child of Robert Bickerstaffe & Ellen
Abode: Dalton St
Occupation: Joiner

Baptisms: 26 Apr 1844 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Albert Bickerstaff - Child of Robert Bickerstaff & Ellen
Abode: Dalton St
Occupation: Joiner

Baptisms: 25 Jul 1845 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
George Enoch Bickerstaff - Child of Robert Bickerstaff & Ellen
Abode: Dalton St, West Derby
Occupation: Joiner



Was using Ancestry first, but all children are on Lancs OPC site :roll:
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Re: JAMES BICKERSTAFF

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also on Lancs OPC

Baptisms: 5 Mar 1809 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Robert Bickerstaff - Son of Robert Bickerstaff & Ellen (formerly White), His Wife
Born: 28 Oct 1808
Abode: Cable Street
Occupation: Upholsterer


Could an Upholsterer be a Joiner.. or am I pushing it too far :lol:

or maybe he became more of a Joiner later on :idea:
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Re: JAMES BICKERSTAFF

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simone wrote:also on Lancs OPC

Baptisms: 5 Mar 1809 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Robert Bickerstaff - Son of Robert Bickerstaff & Ellen (formerly White), His Wife
Born: 28 Oct 1808
Abode: Cable Street
Occupation: Upholsterer


Could an Upholsterer be a Joiner.. or am I pushing it too far :lol:

or maybe he became more of a Joiner later on :idea:
Tempting find Simone. But it would mean Ellen was still having children 30 years later. :?:
Surely not the same couple?
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Re: JAMES BICKERSTAFF

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no Brian.. was thinking this couple may be parents of the Robert who married Ellen Askew and went on to have all those kiddies I posted previously :wink:
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Re: JAMES BICKERSTAFF

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just updated previous message with rest of baptisms :wink:
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There is a Robert Bickerstaff who married Ellen Askew at St Anne's Liverpool in 1831...he is a joiner... suppose he could be a much older brother
marriage is witnessed by a Jane Bickerstaff..
Not sure Simone of the geography of your area, but is there any connection between West Derby, - St Anne's, Liverpool and St Peter's Liverpool?
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Re: JAMES BICKERSTAFF

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Hi

Not sure where Dalton Street was but West Derby about 4 miles from St Anne's Church Richmond which was at Cazneau Street, although they could have lived nearer the church than that due to span of West Derby area, and then St Peter's church was about a mile further away again in centre of the city at Church Street.
St Peter's was a church commonly used by people from all over Liverpool and even further afield at that time.

If you use google maps and put West Derby Cemetery as a starting point you may get an idea of the span of the area :wink:

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West Derby was not only a village outside Liverpool, and is still a suburb, but the name used for an ancient Hundred and for the registration district almost surrounding the original town of Liverpool. Confusing, but we get used to it!
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Hi South Yorkie
off topic, just to add a bit of intrigue in your tree... :D
Conviction Preston Crown Court
Thomas Bickerstaffe, Larceny before conviction of Felony, 6months imprisonment
1849
He's not in your tree, just one of the outlaws...
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Re: JAMES BICKERSTAFF

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Hi folks
It looks like age 19 in 1841 census for Thos.
Robert may have been aged 56yrs as ages rounded up.
1851 has Thomas Bickerstaff journeyman joiner 28 bn Lpool
married to Mary 30 who came from Penrith
9 Linden St W Dby
Joseph 6, ROBERT 5, Christopher 2yrs.

1861 Thos transcribed as BOCKERDAFF as is Mary, Joseph(blacksmith) & Robert.
error sent to ANX.
Christopher 11, Mary 7, Jane 5.
In the courts in Fal???? St W Dby. (Could be Falkner as the 1st index is Crown St)
Side tracking here..
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Just to add Thomas alive in 1881 joiner 58 wid.
son Christopher joiner 31, daughter Mary 27
82 Queensland St W Dby
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Re: JAMES BICKERSTAFF

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Hi Tina :D

Good finds :wink: there aren't half some odd transcriptions for this name :roll:
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Re: JAMES BICKERSTAFF

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Not sure where Dalton Street was
It was just beyond where Pembroke Place divided into West Derby Road and Crown Street.
http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co. ... z/np79.htm
Slightly right of centre at the top edge of the map, and about 2 inches down. Between the convent and the Baptist Chapel.
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Re: JAMES BICKERSTAFF

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ahh thanks Brian.. so they were well into the city really.. no where near West Derby Cemetery... more than reasonable for them to have used both churches.. especially St Peter's when the kiddies were born, just a matter minutes walk :wink:

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