Joseph Osmotherley - trying to find grave

[Alison C]

Hello,

I am trying to find out where my great-great-grandfather Joseph Osmotherley is buried. He died in 1903 in Rice Lane Workhouse. I would have expected him to have been in West Derby cemetery - but no sign of this on Ancestry.

There is a family grave in Toxteth Park cemetery - bought by his daughter Louisa and her husband Peter Cox (my great-grandparents) - but he's not there either, even though there was room in the grave. (Joseph's wife, Mary Ann was buried there when she died in 1927). However, I suspect Joseph and Mary Ann may have been separated. In the 1901 census, Joseph is in the Workhouse and listed as Married. Mary Ann, however, is living with her son and is listed as Widowed. On Joseph's death certificate his address is given as Roscommon Street, Everton which was a boarding house in 1901.

Any suggestions as to where Joseph may be buried?

Thanks

Alison x

[MaryA]

I would have thought Walton Park Cemetery would be more likely, this seems to have been used often by the Workhouse when matters were left to them to handle, however, Ancestry do have these records too and since it's not showing up there I'm surprised.

What religion was he and what was his date of birth?

Actually I'm assuming it was the 2nd quarter of 1903 that he died, but do you have the exact date?

[Alison C]

Hi Mary A,

Joseph was born on 30 November 1839 in Crosby, Cumberland. His parents were Joseph Osmotherley (bootmaker) and Mary nee Allison.

He died on 9 May 1903. His age at death is given as 67 - which is 5 years out given his birth date.

As far as I know, the family were all C of E.

Thanks

Alison x

[MaryA]

I'm sorry, I felt sure it should have been Walton Park but have checked the page for the next couple of weeks after the date in case there was some mistranscription but there is no entry.

I think that maybe you would have to check the Workhouse records and see if they make any mention of where the burial would have been.

[Alison C]

Still trying to find the elusive Joseph Osmotherley!

I know now that he's not buried in:
- Toxteth Park
- Anfield
- Everton
- Kirkdale
- West Derby
- Walton Park
- St James

Are there any cemeteries I've missed?

Alison

[MaryA]

I think Necropolis was closed by then but unsure, seems unlikely to be Thornton, but I wonder if he had any special affiliations with a particular church ? What about St Mary's Kirkdale, wouldn't be too far from where he was living.

This is my list, however it doesn't have closure dates.
https://www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/ ... =14&t=5739

[lynne99]

Just a thought. Could he have been cremated. It was legal then.

[Katie]

Anfield Crematorium was open then. Did you check the General Sections as well?

[Alison C]

Mary, Lynne and Katie - Many thanks for the suggestions!

I'm not aware of an affiliation to any particular church. He married at St Mary in Edge Hill. Daughter Louisa was baptised at St John the Baptist, Toxteth and son Albert in St Peter. Louisa married at St Michael in the Hamlet, Aigburth and Albert married at St Peter. His parents and those siblings who died in Liverpool are in a family grave in St James cemetery. However, when Joseph died there were already 4 adults and 6 children in the grave so, I assume, no room for him! His wife is buried in Toxteth Park in a grave purchased by her son-in-law.

St Mary's Kirkdale seems to have ceased burials in 1898. Same with the Necropolis.

I have checked the General section in Anfield with no luck.

I hadn't even thought of the possibility of cremation. I didn't realise cremations began that early! Are the cremation records held at the record office or would I need to contact Anfield (or Allerton?) directly?

Alison

[MaryA]

There is a combined Cremation Register at the Record Office, should tell you where the event took place.

You have checked the newspapers for a death entry?