Familysearch - "Toxteth Park" as parish

Post by **daggers** » 07 Mar 2012 21:05

I have found several baptisms (early 19c, CofE) listed as in the heading. Has anyone come across this, and which church is meant?
Daggers

Post by **MaryA** » 07 Mar 2012 21:50

Oh dear, we have come across this problem before with other areas and have contacted the LDS about them. They don't appear to have identified the churches properly. I can only suggest that you contact them and ask if the beginning of their film gives the parish, alternatively if you give us the names would we find them on Ancestry perhaps and maybe identify them that way?

Post by **northmeols** » 07 Mar 2012 23:47

these are usually from early submissions by church members,befor they streamlined the submissions into one form sstyle. toxteth would have probably been where they ffound them buried rather than the parish.

Post by **daggers** » 08 Mar 2012 08:15

Thanks for the comments. It is always a relief to learn that it is not just me!
Looks like composing an approach to LDS...
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Post by **Hilary** » 08 Mar 2012 09:14

I had this problem with my grandmother's baptism. It is listed 4 times by the LDS (no submitted entries) all state just Oswestry Shropshire. I wrote to the LDS via the contact form submitting the details of film etc from the entries and asked which church this was (there are 4 in Oswestry) I was informed it was a church in the USA. I wrote back and explained my grandmother was born in 1884 and never left these shores. No reply.

I tried again and was told to match the film number to their library catalogue and that would give the church. I did that and discovered the relevant film had 9 churches baptisms on it. All 4 in Oswestry and the rest in the surrounding area. If only their transcribers would have put the name of the church it would make a half useful record into a useful record.

One day I will get to Shropshire record Office and find Granny's christening.

I hope you have more success than I did.

I was looking for a family in the Sheffield area and to get some ideas etc I looked at Family Search. There I found what looked like the family al baptised and in some cases married in Throapham church. I went off to Sheffield to check everything out. Not a single baptism marriage or burial appeared in the Throapham registers. Did I find them? yes all in Ecclesfield church a good 10 miles east of Throapham. Again these were transcribed entries not submitted ones.

The moral of my story is as we all know don't believe anything until you've seen the original!!

Post by **daggers** » 08 Mar 2012 17:10

Before chasing the LDS for better details about the 'Toxteth Park' parish baptisms, I am posting the details here, in case they are available for look-up elsewhere: I suspect the source may be found as St Michael-in-the-Hamlet, but may be proved wrong [as often!]

The three entries are all for surname MOSS,
John James, son of John Moss, and Hannah nee Taylor, bp 27 Aug 1822,
William Henry, ditto, bp 11 May 1824,
Gilbert Winter, ditto, bp 8 Aug 1828.

Grateful for any help.

Daggers

Post by **MaryA** » 08 Mar 2012 19:34

Sorry not for John James but there are baptised in Toxteth St Michaels, all to John and Hannah Moss the following

William Henry Moss 11 Apr abt 1824 11 May 1824 Mother given as Hannah Taylor, address Otterspool, occupation Merchant
Harriet Eliza Moss 1 Apr abt 1826 23 May 1826 address Otterspool, occupation Banker
Gilbert Winter Moss abt 1828 8 Aug 1828 address Otterspool, occupation Merchant

Post by **MaryA** » 08 Mar 2012 19:37

Got John James, it had been transcribed as Thoss!!!
Born 16 July, 1822 baptised 27th August. Mother's maiden name Taylor, Otterspool, merchant.

Post by **daggers** » 08 Mar 2012 19:50

Mary
Once again I owe you for helping me out. A cup of coffee or something stronger, at least, when we next meet.
Daggers

Post by **MaryA** » 08 Mar 2012 20:22

I'm sure there will be time to take a break if you are in the Liverpool Museum on 24th