Lord Sefton's Estate

Post by **Manila Jack** » 26 Jan 2012 22:32

I am helping research Frederick or Fred Dunning. I understand he was an estate work on Lord Sefton's estate and had a cottage somewhere where Deysbrook Lane and Mab Lane meet in the Croxteth area. He was there circa 1911. Would there be any surviving estate records which may show him as a worker and if so where would they be?

Post by **MaryA** » 27 Jan 2012 09:14

Now I may be wrong but I believe those records are still held at Knowsley Hall and are very difficult to get to research.

I think Jan knows quite a fair bit about them, I'll send her a pm and ask her to look at your query and respond if she knows anything.

Post by **Hilary** » 27 Jan 2012 10:45

Molyneux of Sefton records are at Lancashire Record Office under the coding DDM. They have a whole file index of DDM - you can spend hours just reading it - I have at Lancashire Record Office!!

It was teh Derby family at Knowsley and yes lots of their records are still at Knowsley Hall but a fair proprtion are at Lancashire Record Office.

Post by **Manila Jack** » 27 Jan 2012 12:31

Thanks to you both. We'll start looking in those directions

Post by **jan44** » 27 Jan 2012 14:05

Hi Everyone,

Most of the records that were at Lancashire RO for the Earl's of Derby (Stanley's of Knowsley) are mainly at Knowsley Hall, when I was looking for records for Bootle some years ago, I contacted the curator at Knowsley Hall, a very nice woman, but she said all the minuments (as she called them) were in no sort of order, and it would take months for her to get through them all!! I told her the ref numbers of the documents I was interested in, and she said she could have a look, but the search fee would have been £20 an hour!!

Public research at the hall is not permitted!

I don't know if she ever got all those papers sorted out, but it would have taken her a very long time.

Hope that has been of some help.

Jan

Post by **MaryA** » 27 Jan 2012 15:26

Glad that I've been proved wrong and that you might get a result if you use the Lancs RO. Sorry to have dragged Jan in with the wrong idea, but better somebody try than no responses hey?

Post by **jan44** » 27 Jan 2012 17:18

Hi Mary,

Not sure, but I think Croxteth Hall etc was the estate for the Molyneux family, I get a bit muxed ip myself sometimes!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croxteth_Hall

Jan

Post by **jan44** » 27 Jan 2012 17:55

I had a look on Liverpool RO archives catalogue, and there are some ref's to the Molyneux estate on there under 920 SEF

Jan

Post by **jan44** » 27 Jan 2012 18:50

I found this interesting link.

http://www.croxteth.co.uk/attractions/h ... lyneux.asp

Jan

Post by **Manila Jack** » 27 Jan 2012 21:02

Thanks everyone. I knew the expertise would be on this forum! It gives something to start with in our research.

Post by **shellywelly2011** » 09 Feb 2012 18:11

You can contact Betty Brown at the Molyneux Society. She is an expert on the Molyneux family. There has been a huge amount of research on the Molyneux clan from Knowsley. I am one of them lol. Betty is based in Prescott.

Post by **MaryA** » 09 Feb 2012 18:35

Hi and welcome to the forum, thanks for jumping straight in with a response to a query.

Post by **Manila Jack** » 09 Feb 2012 20:30

Thanks ShellyWelly. Will look into that lead.