Edward Bewley Langley born 1833 Portsea,Portsmouth,England

Post by **burkefam04** » 25 Dec 2011 23:22

Hi All

Firstly can i wish all members a very Merry Christmas and a very healthy and happy 2012!!

I am currently researching a Great Grand-Uncle of mine Edward Bewley Langley who was born in Portsea,Portsmouth in 1833.His parents were Thomas and Frances Langley(nee Alford).From my research, i reckon the family left Portsmouth circa 1839 for a new and better life in Liverpool.I can find Edward and the family in the 1841 and 1851 Census living in Liverpool(Seel Street near the docks) but after that Edward seems to have disappeared off the radar after the age of 18.

Any help or information would be much appreciated.

Kind regards,
Paul

Post by **MaryA** » 26 Dec 2011 11:07

To assist anybody trying to help, here is the entry for the 1841 censuse

1841 HO107 piece 562 folio 7/41 page 8
Gunn Grove, Back Seel Street, Liverpool
All born out of County
Fanny Langley 35 Dressmaker
Sarah 35 Ind.
Thomas 35 Warehouseman
William 9
Edward 8
George 6
John 4

Please give full details of the 1851 census and do you know who Sarah (above) is?

Post by **MaryA** » 26 Dec 2011 11:15

I think this would be the family in 1851 but Edward isn't with them.

HO107; Piece: 2180; Folio: 309; Page: 40
2 Llewellyn Buildings, Liverpool
Frances Langley Wife M 40 Dressmaker Dorset Shaftsbury
Wm T " Son 19 C??t filler (J) Hants, Portsmouth
John A Son 14 Scholar " "
Ann H daur 9 " " Lancashire Liverpool
Henry C son 6 " " "
Geo U son 3 " "
Sarah Alford Sister in Law 46 Housekeeper Dorset Shaftsbury

If you have him in 1851 please give details, has he married?

Post by **dickiesam** » 26 Dec 2011 13:13

Hi,
Like MaryA I can't find Edward in 1851 although you indicated he was with his family in your post.

I can't find him in 1861 or later either which leads me to 2 conclusions.. either he emigrated or died. If the latter there are 3 deaths in the area between 1841 and 1851:
Death Mar 1842: Langley, Edward - Liverpool - 20 - 333.
Death Jun 1847: Langley, Edward Beech - Liverpool - 20 - 592.
Death Sep 1847: Langley, Edward - Liverpool - 20 - 679.

When I found the family in 1861 where the mother Francis is a widow [RG09 - 2673 - 77 - 10] I noticed all the children had a second forename, some unusual; William Thomas, Ann Hume, Henry Calet and George Vail(?). I would suspect therefor that the Jun qtr 1847 death is more likely to be Edward. If you are sure Edward's middle name was Bewley, it might have been mis-written as Beech. It is definitely Beech on the GRO Index page.

DS

Post by **MaryA** » 26 Dec 2011 16:50

There is a marriage for a Nancy Bewley Langley to Thomas Astbury, on 21st August, 1899 in St Michael, Toxteth, she was 28 years old, and her father was William Thomas Langley (deceased).

There is a birth for Nancy Bewley Langley Q2 1869 West Derby 8b 297

Could this be the child of William Thomas, Edward's brother? which might confirm the name Bewley being carried on through the family.

DS there is a possible birth for Edward Beech Langley Q3 1939 Stafford 17 126

Post by **MaryA** » 26 Dec 2011 17:06

It would seem that somebody else has a similar idea to mine
http://www.yourfamilytreemag.co.uk/yft- ... hp?t=13653
however, although you state there also that you have him on the 1851 census, you give no details. Does this census give any possible clues as to his later whereabouts?

Post by **MaryA** » 26 Dec 2011 17:49

There is also somebody else apparently researching this person, at least the husband of an descendant - http://www.aussiegenes.net/

Post by **MaryA** » 26 Dec 2011 18:03

On the US censuses, particularly 1880, there are two Edward Langleys born mid 1830's both England. Have you followed these through and attempted to make contact with descendants of the families in order to discount these.

Post by **dickiesam** » 26 Dec 2011 18:06

MaryA wrote:There is also somebody else apparently researching this person, at least the husband of an descendant - http://www.aussiegenes.net/

Looks like most of the Langley family children are in the list of surnames; George Vail, Henry Caleb, etc...

And my suggestion about a death looks 'dead' with that find of a matching birth and considering the Australian interest it is looking as though Edward headed down-under.

DS

Post by **burkefam04** » 27 Dec 2011 02:20

Hi MaryA and Dickiesam

Firstly many thanks for replying so quickly to my query and apologies for my delay in replying to same.

On further analysis of my research , i realise that Edward does not feature on the 1851 and 1861 Census with the family so apologies on that front for wasting your time.Dickiesam , i also found it unsual that the family members had unusual middle names - Henry's was Caleb , George(my Great Grand-Father x 2) was Vaill and Edward's was definitely Bewley.This appears to stem from the fact that there was a connection back to a family in Portsmouth who were of that surname.This surname features quite regularly in my family tree and as MaryA quite correctly points to a Nancy Bewley Langley who was the daughter of William Thomas Langley,my Great Grand-Uncle who was obviously still keen to use the name.Dickiesam,i was tempted to be drawn in the past to the death of Edward as Edward Beech Langley in 1847 so you could be correct on this front so maybe i need to draw a line in the sand at this point.MaryA,the information on www.aussiegenes.net was provided by me to somebody in Australia where the connection can not truly be verified but the fact that you draw attention to the US Census 1880 does interest me as the last note i have on Edward's file is 1900 US Census Edward Langley Residence : Jackson,Oregon born 1832,Baptised January 1833(Edward's was 27/01/1833),Occupation : Miner/Father and Mother born England/Married 1876/Immigration Year 1852.So who knows??It still remains a mystery for me !!

Many Thanks for your help,
Paul

Post by **MaryA** » 27 Dec 2011 10:38

burkefam04 wrote: the fact that you draw attention to the US Census 1880 does interest me as the last note i have on Edward's file is 1900 US Census Edward Langley Residence : Jackson,Oregon born 1832,Baptised January 1833(Edward's was 27/01/1833),Occupation : Miner/Father and Mother born England/Married 1876/Immigration Year 1852.So who knows??

Yes I saw that one too and think he can be linked to one of the entries in 1880, worth your while investigating further anyway.

If he arrived in 1852 then perhaps he was travelling in 1851, working his way rather than a direct route maybe, could be the sort of adventure a young man might undertake.