Mary Makin?

Post by **Barbara B** » 14 Dec 2011 13:46

I have Mary Makin born Liverpool 1883 to parents Joseph and Margaret. She appears in the 1891 census and then disappears completely. I know her parents both died shortly after the 1891 but I can't find anything, not even a death, for Mary. Her sister, Ellen is taken in by her mother''s family, the Wooseys but not Mary. Maybe she died with her parents?
Any ideas anyone?
Thanks in advance
Barbara

Post by **MaryA** » 14 Dec 2011 14:38

Have you checked the 1911 census index? Most of the Mary Makins are married however, I see that there is a Mary Makin aged 27 and by trial and error discovered that her birthplace is given as "Bootle". Using the hints for searching the 1911 census index given on another forum board, I managed to discover that she is living with a 77 year old Irish Catherine Devine in Liverpool.

This relationship could be investigated in case there is a family connection.

Post by **dickiesam** » 14 Dec 2011 15:34

MaryA wrote:Have you checked the 1911 census index? Most of the Mary Makins are married however, I see that there is a Mary Makin aged 27 and by trial and error discovered that her birthplace is given as "Bootle". Using the hints for searching the 1911 census index given on another forum board, I managed to discover that she is living with a 77 year old Irish Catherine Devine in Liverpool.

This relationship could be investigated in case there is a family connection.

That Mary Makin, unmarried, is a cousin to widow Catherine Devine [from Heystown, Co Wexford]. Catherine is a small general shopkeeper at 152 Blenheim Street.

Odd! In 1901 Mary is a Walker on the summary page...
DEVINE, Catherine - Head - Widow - 65 - 1836 - Provision Shop - Ireland.
WALKER, Mary - Cousin - U/m - 17 - 1884 - Liverpool.
Address: 152 Blenheim Street, Liverpool
RG13 - Piece:3412 - Folio:84 - Page:13

The name in the later census is exactly right as Makin, so I reckon there was a slip between eye and pen when the info was transferred in 1901.

In case you can't find the widow Catherine in 1891..... try Clara!
I searched by address.
DEVINE, Clara - Head - Widow - 50 - 1841 - Grocer - Wexford, Ireland.
EGGAR, Joseph - Boarder - u/m - 35 - 1856 - General Labourer - Wexford.
MCDONAL, Micheal - Boarder - u/m - 30 - 1861 - General Labourer - Wexford.
ENSHAW, Mark - Boarder - u/m - 28 - 1863 - General Labourer - Mayo, Ireland.
Address: 152 Blenheim Street, Liverpool.
RG12 - Piece:2901 - Folio:90 - Page:11

DS

Post by **Barbara B** » 14 Dec 2011 17:13

Thanks Mary and DS. Now able to check 1911 census for Lancashire in full on Anc** snd I saw that Mary as well. I don't think it's the one. No apparent marriages either. I'm sure she must be somewhere!
Barbara

Post by **dickiesam** » 14 Dec 2011 17:53

Hi Barbara,
I still think that 1911 Mary M and the 1900 Mary W is a possible, although the relationship may be incorrect. Hard to imagine cousins born 50 years apart.

This is Catherine's death I think..
Death: DEVINE, Catherine
Registration District: Toxteth Park
Year/qtr of registration: 1915 / Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 81
Volume No: 8B; Page No: 298

For me it appears likely that Mary Makin may have taken over the shop so a peek at a trade directory for 1915 and later may throw up something.

There's a marriage that could be worth investigating..
Marriage Mar 1914 - W. Derby - 8B - 684: Hamilton, George A and MAKIN, Mary.

If this is the same Mary as the shop Mary she would have been 30 when she married. Still young enough to produce possibly 2 children.
Births Mar 1915: Hamilton, Charles G - Makin - W.Derby - 8b - 644
Births Mar 1917: Hamilton, George A - Makin - Liverpool - 8b - 18
Births Dec 1917: Hamilton, Hazel C - Makin - W. Derby - 8b - 840

And something I haven't figured out yet... One of the above 1917 births has to be to a different couple, unless they were twins but registered in different offices [hardly likely?]. But there are no other Liverpool area marriages between 1901 and 1920.

DS

Post by **MaryA** » 14 Dec 2011 20:19

Unless it has been mistaken, 8b covers both areas - no that doesn't make sense since the page numbers would surely run on if they were twins.

Unfortunately LancsBMD lists that marriage as West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended but there is no entry for a Catholic marriage on Ancestry, so it either did take place in the Register Office or in a church not yet uploaded.