I have taken a look on National Archives but I just seem to go around in circles
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My husbands grandfather served in South Africa in the Boer War...we have a copy of his discharge papers ...he was attached to the Imperial Yeomanry Regiment from February 1901 to 15th September 1902 ...Just wondering if it is possible to obtain more information about his time in the regiment.
I have taken a look on National Archives but I just seem to go around in circles
Thank you Ann
I have taken a look on National Archives but I just seem to go around in circles
Thank you Ann
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Imperial Yeomanry
Hi,
I have no doubt one of our military experts will be along soon. But in the meantime there's this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Yeomanry
DS
I have no doubt one of our military experts will be along soon. But in the meantime there's this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Yeomanry
DS
DS
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Emery, McAnaspie/McAnaspri etc, Fry, McGibbon/McKibbion etc, Burbage, Butler, Brady, Foulkes, Sarsfield, Moon [Bristol & Cornwall].
Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
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There is an angloboerwar website which has a search section and much else. There are also sites on Victorian Wars which might be useful.
Do you know which company &/or battalion of the IY your man served with - perhaps the discharge papers include that. Some local men served with the Lancashire Hussars contingent of IY, others with Cheshire Yeomanry, but there were many others, too.
Try posting his name here- you might find someone who can say more.
D
Do you know which company &/or battalion of the IY your man served with - perhaps the discharge papers include that. Some local men served with the Lancashire Hussars contingent of IY, others with Cheshire Yeomanry, but there were many others, too.
Try posting his name here- you might find someone who can say more.
D
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Hi Daggers and thank you...On his discharge papers ... William Wood attested at Newcastle
Discharge no 29745 and what looks like Cp
South Africa 1901 -1902... 1 year and 221 days 3 clasps
Discharge confirmed at Aldershot
Also have a protection certificate of identity
Regtl no 457522 unit 449 ... reg or corps RE
Dickiesam thank you will take a look at that.
Ann
Discharge no 29745 and what looks like Cp
South Africa 1901 -1902... 1 year and 221 days 3 clasps
Discharge confirmed at Aldershot
Also have a protection certificate of identity
Regtl no 457522 unit 449 ... reg or corps RE
Dickiesam thank you will take a look at that.
Ann
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Here's a bit more: William was a trooper in 101st (Northumberland) Company, part of 5th Battalion of the Imperial Yeomanry. The company was raised from the Northumberland Hussars Yeomanry in 1901, and it is likely that he was already a member of the yeomanry, many of whom volunteered for the 'adventure' of the war in South Africa.
The Yeomanry were part-time cavalry, forerunners of the Territorial Force which came into existence in 1908. They would be expected to attend locally for training during the year, and spend a week or two at camp.
There is a Northumberland Hussars Museum at Newcastle-o-T and they might be able to tell you more [Googling that brings it up] .
The various battalions of the IY often went into action in small sub-units and it may be difficult to find more details. Websites dealing the IY might be the best for a broad approach.
D
The Yeomanry were part-time cavalry, forerunners of the Territorial Force which came into existence in 1908. They would be expected to attend locally for training during the year, and spend a week or two at camp.
There is a Northumberland Hussars Museum at Newcastle-o-T and they might be able to tell you more [Googling that brings it up] .
The various battalions of the IY often went into action in small sub-units and it may be difficult to find more details. Websites dealing the IY might be the best for a broad approach.
D
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Ann
Back with more.
The protection certificate was a WW1 document, see below.
It looks as if William served in the Royal Engineers, and there is a medal index card for him showing two numbers:
Medal card of Wood, William
Corps Regiment No Rank
Royal Engineers 2077 Sapper
Royal Engineers 457522 Sapper
This can be found, free, via ancestry, or for £2 from the National Archives, documents online. It will show his entitlement to the war medals and possibly when he went overseas to serve. It may tell you more, or not!
Here is a bit about the protection certificate, taken from a most valuable website: The Long, Long Trail [which any WW1 researcher should browse in]:
"On arrival in England the man would move to a Dispersal Centre. This was a hutted or tented camp or barracks. Here he received a Z3, Z11 or Z12 Protection Certificate and a railway warrant or ticket to his home station. This certificate enabled the man to receive medical attention if necessary during his final leave. "
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Back with more.
The protection certificate was a WW1 document, see below.
It looks as if William served in the Royal Engineers, and there is a medal index card for him showing two numbers:
Medal card of Wood, William
Corps Regiment No Rank
Royal Engineers 2077 Sapper
Royal Engineers 457522 Sapper
This can be found, free, via ancestry, or for £2 from the National Archives, documents online. It will show his entitlement to the war medals and possibly when he went overseas to serve. It may tell you more, or not!
Here is a bit about the protection certificate, taken from a most valuable website: The Long, Long Trail [which any WW1 researcher should browse in]:
"On arrival in England the man would move to a Dispersal Centre. This was a hutted or tented camp or barracks. Here he received a Z3, Z11 or Z12 Protection Certificate and a railway warrant or ticket to his home station. This certificate enabled the man to receive medical attention if necessary during his final leave. "
D
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Daggers thank you so much for all of that .... 
Do you know whether his clasps( I am presuming medals) would have his name engraved as with the 1914/18 war.
Thank you Ann
Do you know whether his clasps( I am presuming medals) would have his name engraved as with the 1914/18 war.
Thank you Ann
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My last message crossed with yours...when he was with the RE are you saying he may have served in the first world war also ...actually just checked the protection paper and its dated 17 march 1919 ...my goodness how did I miss that... I have so much to learn
thanks D you are a mine of information
Ann
thanks D you are a mine of information
Ann
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1. Yes, WW1 service in Royal Engineers, some of it overseas.
2. Medals - my knowledge is limited to the little Observer's Book of British Awards and Medals, which does not say anything about naming. However, with a bit of time to spare, I found sites which seem to say that QSA medals were engraved or impressed on the rim. There were numerous clasps or bars awarded for the many actions of the war with nine being the maximum allowed for a soldier. I doubt if they were named. Googling 'Queen's South Africa Medal' will give you plenty to read!
2. Medals - my knowledge is limited to the little Observer's Book of British Awards and Medals, which does not say anything about naming. However, with a bit of time to spare, I found sites which seem to say that QSA medals were engraved or impressed on the rim. There were numerous clasps or bars awarded for the many actions of the war with nine being the maximum allowed for a soldier. I doubt if they were named. Googling 'Queen's South Africa Medal' will give you plenty to read!
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