Zion Free Gospel Chapel

Post by **BurscoughLad** » 06 Oct 2011 16:04

Can anyone identify the location of the subject chapel?
The list of Free Gospel Churches on this site doesn't specify a "Zion" one.
Residence is in Cicely Street, which is / was between Edge Lane and Wavertree Road.

Note: the area is currently in a demolition zone, so it would be great to take a photo, if it hasn't already gone!!

Post by **dickiesam** » 06 Oct 2011 17:26

Hi,
It might still be there! I think this would be the one, at the corner of Pembroke Road and Crown Street, L69 3GE.
The thick black line with the 'orange' arrowhead upper right of map indicates where it is [or was!].

Image replaced by a 'close-up' version in a later post.

DS

Post by **BurscoughLad** » 06 Oct 2011 17:35

Hi DS

Thx for the info. I visit the Liverpool University Hospital on a regular basis (unfortunately!), so I'll pop around the corner, next time I'm down there.

Post by **daggers** » 06 Oct 2011 17:46

'Churches of Liverpool' by David Lewis has a 'Zion Chapel' formerly at the junction of Brythen St [then called Murray St] and Market St, roughley where Queen's Square is now. Built in 1801 by New Connexion Methodists.
It was demolished in 1835, and may not be the one you are looking for.

D

Post by **MaryA** » 06 Oct 2011 18:54

The area that DS has described can be seen on googlemaps streetview, sadly it would seem that The Faculty of Medicine, The Sherrington Buildings, are probably on the site.

Post by **BurscoughLad** » 06 Oct 2011 22:51

Hi Daggers,

Your guess was correct; the baptisms were in the 1880's!!

But thx for trying

Post by **BurscoughLad** » 06 Oct 2011 22:53

Hi Mary,

I had hoped that it was on the other side of Crown Street; so maybe a "couple" of years too late for a photo!!

Post by **Blue70** » 07 Oct 2011 03:35

Hi BL

There's a chapel on this map near to the roads you mentioned:-

http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co. ... z/rt46.htm

Blue

Post by **MaryA** » 07 Oct 2011 09:18

Is that in P7? http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co. ... z/np79.htm it says Pembroke Baptist Chapel, but seems to be in the right area.

Post by **Blue70** » 07 Oct 2011 11:42

I think we should be looking in the Edge Hill area for this chapel. My candidate is called "Edge Hill (Congregational) Chapel" on my LHP map and is called "Congregational Chapel" on the OPC website. The address is Marmaduke Street Edge Hill L7. It's nearer to the roads originally mentioned by BL.

Blue

Post by **dickiesam** » 07 Oct 2011 12:04

Morning all!
This is where I got the hit for the Zion Free Gospel Chapel...

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/idld.srf?x=3 ... rpool&ar=Y

DS

Post by **MaryA** » 07 Oct 2011 12:23

MaryA wrote:Is that in P7?

Forget anything I say - I seem to be totally addled this morning and went way off track. But checking the area where DS points, but on streetview, I don't see anything resembling a chapel.

Post by **daggers** » 07 Oct 2011 12:24

Blue
David Lewis says this in 'Liverpool Churches':
Edge Hill Congregational CHurch ..was built on Marmaduke Street in 1878.... The church later became St Anne's Hall but new offices now stand on the site.

D

Post by **dickiesam** » 07 Oct 2011 12:42

MaryA wrote:
MaryA wrote:Is that in P7?
Forget anything I say - I seem to be totally addled this morning and went way off track. But checking the area where DS points, but on streetview, I don't see anything resembling a chapel.

Methinks a personal visit to the site is the only solution. But the area does look quite developed on Google Earth with a lot of 'new' buildings and open space.

DS

Post by **Blue70** » 07 Oct 2011 12:43

Thanks Daggers. Right time frame for baptisms in the 1880s.

Blue

Post by **Blue70** » 07 Oct 2011 16:07

There's another candidate "Mount Zion Independent Methodist Chapel" it was located between numbers 3 and 9 Chatham Place (between Kinglake and Overbury Streets). It appears on the Gore's Directory of Liverpool in 1900 but by the time of the 1911 directory it had become "Chatham Hall Social Democratic Federation".

Blue

Post by **Blue70** » 07 Oct 2011 16:35

According to David Lewis the congregation at Marmaduke Street had previously attended chapels at a number of different locations including:-

"a chapel in Chatham Place bought from the New Connexion Methodists which continued in use as a Sunday school."

Blue

Post by **MaryA** » 07 Oct 2011 19:43

You two make quite a team

Post by **Blue70** » 08 Oct 2011 10:55

The names of these chapels may differ but I think the Marmaduke Street chapel is most likely the one.

Blue

Post by **dickiesam** » 08 Oct 2011 19:08

This is an enlarged view of the map I posted earlier. It clearly shows what appears to be the pre-development location of the Zion Free Gospel Chapel.

DS