Landed Gentry came to our help desk today

[Katie]

A young chap came to our Liverpool Help desk today because he had been told one of his ancestors was involved with the Slave Trade in Liverpool and James Street was named after him. I asked him about his family tree and if he had brought any documentation with him, he hadn't but he did have his fathers and grandfather details on his Ipod which he showed me. Well his Grandfather is only Sir Archibald William Henry James.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_James

The family tale is that they hailed from Cumbria but there is a connection to Liverpool and they were not that well off back then, I would loved to have spent a couple of hours looking for the connection

I advised him to look in Burkes Peerage and Who's who

lovely chap apologised to me for being connected to the Blue's

What a day

[MaryA]

Well done! What a great variety of people you get arriving at your Help Desk, your reputation must be known far and wide for them to come searching for you to help.

[Katie]

Tried to do a bit of research into this family tonight, but I think I will go and look
in Burkes Peerage myself

[dickiesam]

Tried to do a bit of research into this family tonight, but I think I will go and look
in Burkes Peerage myself

Look no further.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_James

The family are here in 1901:
RG13 / Piece:888 / Folio:24 / Page:16
Address: Church Road, Herstmonceaux Place, Herstmonceaux, Sussex.

His father is a retired solicitor, Henry A James [bn 1856 London] and his mother is Mary E James [bn 1868 Liverpool].
I think this could be their marriage:
Marriage: JAMES, Henry Ashworth and ? MOIR, Mary Emma.
Registration District: Paddington, London.
Year/qtr of Registration: 1892 / Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume No: 1A; Page No: 42.

1871:
MOIR, William - Head - 46 - Merchant - Scotland.
MOIR, Emma - Wife - 34 - Hampstead, Middlesex.
MOIR, Mary E - Dtr - 3 - Liverpool, Lancashire.
Address: Rosemount, Elmswood Road, Garston, Lancashire.

There are 9 servants in the household!
RG10 / Piece:3852 / Folio:91 / Page:13.

DS

[daggers]

Off the main topic, but this might be of general interest:
QUOTE "Address: Rosemount, Elmswood Road, Garston, Lancashire."

This house name sometimes appears as Rosemont, and in 1932 became the site of a zoo. Rosemont Road now occupies much of the site.
There is some information in the descriptive notes on the reverse side of the Godfrey Edition map of Mossley Hill, 'Lancashire 113.08'.
D

[Katie]

You Beauties! DS and Daggers. I have the address for this nice young man I will copy and send the finding's.

[dickiesam]

You Beauties! DS and Daggers. I have the address for this nice young man I will copy and send the finding's.

Katie, if he wants any more he only has to ask. While there is definitely a Scots connection, there might be a Cumbria one too. And ee might find get him hooked!

DS

[dickiesam]

Duplicated post! Removed....

[Katie]

He told me he loves watching "Who Do You Think You Are" and he supports the Reds and he couldnt understand why, well we know why! his decended from a Scouser (sort of) Ill get his address he must be at University or something in Wigan because thats the address he put in our register. There may be a connection to the Slave Trade but not on the James line?

[Tina]

Hi Katie
Well done lass for helping out the young man.
He certainly will be hooked on this genie lark.
Archibald was baptised on 18 Nov 1893 at St John's Paddington
father solicitor 11 Oxford Sq

Tina

Just to add, famous address for the young man to look up
16 Rodney St 1861 William Moir merchant unmar with 2 unmarried sisters both listed as Merchants, Margaret 33, Isabella 29.

[Tina]

Just got to share with the crew who all know my birthplace
Archie's grandpa another solicitor in 1891 census living in Watford aged 65 yrs was born Wavertree!! (probably the home of the slave trader )
His wife born in Grasmere.

Tina

[dickiesam]

Just got to share with the crew who all know my birthplace
Archie's grandpa another solicitor in 1891 census living in Watford aged 65 yrs was born Wavertree!! (probably the home of the slave trader )
His wife born in Grasmere.

Tina

Hey Tina, I think you may have found the Cumbria connection. Grasmere is in Cumbria! So it was Sir Archibald's g.mother who came from 'up North'.

And re the slave trade... Many 'merchants' were involved. They would finance the slavers who would sail from UK ports to the coast of Africa, collect/buy a ship load of slaves, transport them across the Atlantic to be sold and with the proceeds buy a shipload of goods for import such as sugar, cotton etc.

DS