David Lazarus/Dobb

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David Lazarus/Dobb

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If anyone would like a challenge then maybe someone can find this young man.
David Thornton Lazarus was born Jan 1881 to Louis/Lewis Lazarus, born in Poland, and Frances née Dobb. They were married in the Jan quarter of 1880, registry office or registrar attended.
By 1883 Frances is re-married to William John Smith at St Simon's, Liverpool. On the marriage certificate she is a spinster.
David appears on the 1891 census living with his grandfather, Thomas Dobb. He is with his aunt, Jane Turner, née Dobb on the 1901.
After that he disappears. I can't find a death for either Dobb or Lazarus which matches his age. I've also drawn a blank with his father, Louis.
I'd love to clear up this little mystery.
Any suggestions?
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David Lazarus

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Hi Barbara,
Clutching a straw here....
Found this in the Outgoing Passenger List on Findmypast. He's the only DL in the list up to 1945.

Name: David LAZARUS
Date of departure: 22 November 1911
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: Unknown.
Marital status: Single; Gender: Male
Occupation: Jeweler
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of manifest

Ship: ST LOUIS
Official Number: 116669
Master's name: J C Jamison
Steamship Line: American Line

But! I can't find this DL the jeweler in 19*n census the same year going back with a YoB to 1830. Maybe he was going home to the US? Can anyone find him arriving in NY on the St Louis or arriving in the UK?

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Post by Tina »

David was baptised at St Peter's his father Lewis was a tailor in Gill st, (probably London Rd end where all the tailors were) 6.3.1881

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oops 71 Gill St in 1881
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There are three David Lazarus +/- 5 years of 1881 in America, without even specifying a place they all turn up in the New York area, however, for reasons of parentage etc., only one of them could even be a possible, however he does give New York for his birthplace.

Central Park West, Manhattan, New York
David Lazarus is 35, a Surgical Physician, parents were born England
Wife Harriet is 25 also born New York, father born Germany, mother born England
Eliss is son, 3 years 2 months old
Harold Gross is brother in law, 29 born New York, occupation medical physician.
1920;Census Place: Manhattan Assembly District 9, New York, New York; Roll: T625_1201; Page: 13B; Enumeration District: 670; Image: 302

I think this man is unlikely.
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Post by Barbara B »

Thanks for the input all.
DS I did think he might have emigrated but in the 1901 he's a printer (as was his grandfather, Thomas) and he was definitely born in England.
Mary, I agree, it's definitely the wrong man.
Thanks Tina for the baptism contribution.
David remains a mystery man for the moment. Obviously Frances' new husband wasn't too keen on taking poor David as well hence him being passed around 'like snuff at a wake', as my Gran would have said!
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