Alice Bello Born 1916/17 Liverpool

[dee32]

How wonderful that these posts are available. I have researched the Midghall family and was just beginning the Bello line. Thanks for all of this great information. Ali, which of Mary Victoria's siblings is your gg-grandfather. Alice Ann had many siblings and extended family in the U.S. The leads that you have received from this board are correct. I would like to email you privately.

[Tina]

Hi Dee32
A very warm welcome to our forum.
Just great to have a USA connection.
Tina

[MaryA]

Hi and welcome to the forum, glad you have made a connection.

[Clatterbridgegirl1967]

Hi Found out Alice Bello was considered too dark skinned by her mothers second husband so grew up in a convent in liverpool.
I did a search on bing but didnt come up with much.
Does anyone know how many convents were in Liverpool and would they have kept records? Bit confused why she wasnt adopted given her mother surrendered her and the father was deceased.

Ali

[MaryA]

Bit confused why she wasnt adopted given her mother surrendered her and the father was deceased.

Probably because there wasn't any formal adoption until 1927.

There were quite a number of institutions she could have been placed with, as an example Jan found information on some in the Woolton area http://liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/phpBB ... ht=convent you would need to check with the Liverpool Record Office for any records, not all of them would have been kept but fingers crossed, and also that they are not closed under the 100 year rule.

[Clatterbridgegirl1967]

Hi Mary

Thanks for answering so quickly I appreciate it!
Unfortunately those records are closed until 2049
But I will have a look on the Liverpool RO website anyway.

Thanks Again
Ali

[dee32]

Ali,
Based upon the sources available on the Internet including Mary Victoria Midghall's U. S,. Passport Application, issue date 2 Oct 1919, her second husband was a member of the U.S. Navy, thereby providing her and her son the ability to go to America. Further records about this family indicate that she would have been traveling with her eldest son of this second marriage and pregnant with her second son from the same marriage. I wonder if Alice Bello couldn't go with them because she was not the child of this husband...Mary's children in the U.S. were aware that they had a sister/half-sister living with their grandmother, Alice Ann in Liverpool. Mary Victoria and her third husband always intended to bring her to the U.S., but could never afford to do so. Alice's mother shed many tears over the child she left behind. Paquinto Navarra was also Philippino, he and his children may have had dark complexions. From what source did you learn that Alice went to a convent...it is believed that she was raised in Liverpool by her grandmother.
Dee

[Clatterbridgegirl1967]

Hi Dee32

My information comes from another living family member I recently connected with. I will private message you more fully and Im interested in your connection with Alice.

Ali

[Tina]

Thank you dee32 for your amazing information.Tina

[Clatterbridgegirl1967]

Dee32, Sorry I didnt see your earlier posts around 14/6 DOH definite blonde moment then!!

Hi Tina
Good to here from you too!


Ali

[Donn-3]

Hi All: I want to introduce myself. I am the great-grandson of Mary Victoria Midghall Bello. My grandmother is Alice Bello Chung Awang. My mother is Alice first daughter Nina Patricia. Thanks for all of the info on my family. Yes, the women in my family are into the "exotic" men. My aunt Toni went the other way and married two plain "vanillas" LOL

[MaryA]

Hi Donald and welcome to the forum. I hope you two can progress your research.

[Donn-3]

Mary A. I'm sure I will get a chance to meet some additional family members. My aunt Toni has three children and my cousins Michele and Brandon have three and two children respectively. We keep in touch on Facebook and will return to Liverpool for my and my aunt's birthday in November.

[Donn-3]

Hi Dee32, Tina, and Clatterbridgegirl1967 just wanted to know your relation to my great grandmother. I think my friend Michelle Panek has contacted you Clatterbridgegirl1967. I will be heading to the UK with my mom for my and my aunt Toni's birthday in November. I think you are heading to your mom's in October. I am on Facebook and so are my cousin Michele's (Toni's daughter) children. Would be nice to see all of us together in Liverpool.

[Clatterbridgegirl1967]

Hi Don

When in november are you over? I fly back to australia on 4/11/11
I have been chatting lots with Michelle, we have been helping each other, she thinks a lot of your mum considers her her mum no,2.
My relation to the family is my grandfather Albert Edward Midghall was the brother of your great grandmother Mary Victoria Midghall/Bello/Navarra/Puente.

If you are over before I fly back it would be great to meet up and mum (alberts daughter) would love to meet you too.

Will send you a friends request through facebook that way you can aquaint yourself with our family and your relatives! we are all a bit vanilla too ;D Ali

[Tina]

Hi Don
Great to meet you and I enjoyed reading all your info.
Have a wonderful time in November.
Not related in any way.
Welcome to the forum and all the best with your tree.

Tina

[Esky85]

Mary Victoria Midghall is the sister of my great-grandmother (Theresa). This thread has been great reading.

I have been trying to find out more about the family, in particular Alexander Midghall the oldest brother. He was KIA in Hamel, France, and I have been trying to find out when he went overseas. I have his death on 4 January 1916. I got hold of the war diary of his regiment and found out what happened to him. I also have 2 letters sent to his mum from the OC's of the regiment. The thing I'm interested about is that he was never given the 1914-15 star. To get this he must have served overseas on or before 31 Dec 1915. So did he just get to the theater or has he been missed? In one of the letters he is described as loved by his peers and the other one alludes to some of his mates sending word back that he had been missing. I wouldn't have thought strong relationships like that could have developed in 4 or less days. Maybe the letters have been written with the aim to comfort his mother more, rather than describe what actually happened.

I believe his service records have been lost like many others. I don't know how else to find out. I've looked at his WO329 but unfortunately the dates aren't there.

The reason I am interested in Alex is that as far as I know, he never had any kids of his own. His medals would have been given to his mother, who is in my direct line. That would mean I would be able to wear originals or replicas of said medals when I march on Anzac day in Australia. It would be fantastic to honor his memory in this way.

[MaryA]

Hi and welcome to the forum, I hope Ali logs in soon to see you have responded to her post.

It would be lovely if you were able to honour him on your day. I wonder if any of our Military experts might be able to make any suggestions, so I give below the details from the Soldiers who died in the Great War database and also the copy of the medal card to help with advice.

Name: Alexander Midghall
Birth Place: Liverpool
Death Date: 4 Jan 1916
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Liverpool
Rank: Private
Regiment: East Lancashire Regiment
Battalion: 1st Battalion
Number: 19074
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

[MaryA]

He did get the Star look! there was another Medal Card under A Midghall rather than his full name

[Esky85]

Wow, I have been looking for a long time, wonder how its been missed all this time?! Thanks so much for that. It gives his date of entry as well!