Please I hope some one can help

Post by **slewis** » 23 Jun 2011 15:34

Hi
I have been trying to find 2 graves with out much luck, I hope you may be able to help.
The graves are for William Henry Crook, he died 1 June 1939, he lived at 102 Wellington rd, Wavertree, and his wife Elizabeth she died I believe in 1937.
I have been intouch with Cemeteries and Crematoria Services at Allerton,
thy were very helpfull but having checked Allerton , Toxteth and Anfield, even they had no luck.
would any one know off another cemertry in the Wavertree area it must have been Wavertree as that is where they lived and had a bakery shop on the corner of Wellington Road and Wimbledon street.
Fi you can help in any way I would really appreciate it.
Kind regards Sue

Post by **northmeols** » 23 Jun 2011 16:38

have you tried the west derby cem off lowerhouse lane or everton cem

Post by **slewis** » 23 Jun 2011 16:54

Hi Susan
No I haven't i will get on to that now
Kind regards sue

Post by **HOLLY** » 23 Jun 2011 17:01

Hi, the one Susan has mentioned in West Derby is known as Yew Tree, www.fordcemetery.co.uk/yewtreemis.htm has a few sections transcribed - Holly

Post by **daggers** » 23 Jun 2011 17:42

What about Holy Trinity, across the Mystery? You will probably have to look at their registers at the temporary Record Office, or on film at the Museum. Try ringing the LRO for advice on this. Tel: 0151 233 5817.

If you find a burial register entry, you will still have to find the grave! The church has few records, having lost some in a fire years ago, and members have reported difficulty in getting information from them. It could lead to a long hard slog in the grass!
D

Post by **dickiesam** » 23 Jun 2011 17:52

Hi Sue,
Do you know where Elizabeth was born? If she or her family were from 'over the water', she might be buried/cremated over there and William went over to be with her?

DS

Post by **Tina** » 24 Jun 2011 10:34

Hi Suelew

off topic
My grannie lived at 42 Wellie Rd, she would not go down the shelters in WW2 but this one night she must have had a vision.
She went down with my brother while my Mum worked on the 60 bus and came home to find the house demolished thinking they had both died under the kitchen table..
Tina

Post by **dave** » 24 Jun 2011 14:44

Hi

They are both buried in Holy Trinity Wavertree.

William James Crook
102 Wellington Road
Buried 5.6.1939
Aged 86 years.

Elizabeth Crook
102 Wellington Road
Buried 25.3.1937
Aged 88 years

Williams middle name appears to be James and not Henry.

Regards
Dave
Member 3310

Post by **slewis** » 24 Jun 2011 14:58

Hi all
Thank you for all your help and advice, Dave your a star thank you so much we will be in Liverpool next month now we will be able to go and see them, can you tell me just were in Wavertree Holy Trinity is .As its a long time since I was in Liverpool.
Kind regards a very happy Sue

PS Tina good to hear from you

Post by **daggers** » 24 Jun 2011 15:08

Holy Trinity Church is in Church Road, Wavertree which runs from Smithdown Place [with its Beatles links] to the Picton Clock at the end of Wavertree High Street. It is between the BlueCoat School and the Royal School for the Blind, on the corner of Fir Lane.
You may be able to view the churchyard on Google Earth. The postcode is L15 6TQ.
There are lots of graves!
D

Post by **slewis** » 24 Jun 2011 15:41

Hi Dave
Thanks yes you can just had a look
Kind regards sue

Post by **happychappy** » 30 Jun 2011 20:00

Hi Sue,

Pleased you've found the burials you were looking for, but just a word of warning. I have several relatives buried in Holy Trinity including a brother who died in 1947 aged 6 months. There is no record of grave locations, just names and dates of burials. I have spent many long hours trying to find my brothers grave plus two sets of Grandparents buried there. It appears to me that unless there is a headstone on the grave it's very difficult to locate the actual grave. Also of course there are a lot of headstones that have been pulled down and rest face down.
Good luck with your search and I hope you have more luck than me,

Regards,

Roy

Post by **Tina** » 01 Jul 2011 10:04

Both my Cornthwaite grandparents are buried in Holy Trinity, during the war, burials were in the rows between the registered graves, because of the volume of deaths. Prior to the war, the graves were paupers graves.
One of our members on a trip to Lpool, took time to visit the church records and graveyard and came up with nothing.

Tina

Post by **MaryA** » 01 Jul 2011 10:47

Just realised who you are Dave, I've seen some nice photographs of yours, thanks.

Post by **sue smith** » 05 Jul 2011 22:02

Just to let you no do not give up we searched for years looking for a lost relative we had segs on our eye's trip weekly to the libary phoning the cemertys we did give up thinking he had been sent over to Ireland this one gone for ever .Then last year lo an behold he turned up on the pay per view site they had added new sites what amazed us it was not in the libary documents he had been burried in a paupers grave in ford cemetry we had previuse been in touch with them we also had a search done just wondered wether the catholic church had sold this to the pay for view site as it was not available to us good luck Sue

Post by **Blue70** » 05 Jul 2011 23:15

Hi Sue

Your relative wasn't a pauper there are no pauper graves at Ford Cemetery. There are two types of burial and they are both paid for by the family of the deceased. He will be buried in what's called a public grave. Public graves were single interments the family would pay for the burial but would not own the plot.

Blue

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