Help to find the Jackson's in 1891 please

Post by **slewis** » 27 Mar 2011 13:25

Hi
I am looking for the family of Elizabeth Jackson nee Cheetham born abt 1856-8 in Haskayn or Halsall its near Ormskik, husband Richard Jackson born about 1858 I think Liverpool but not sure, they married in 1881 but Elizabeth had a son in 1877 Thomas cheetham I have no idea if they had other children.
I do know that Richard died in Lily road Litherland in 1901 and in 1911 Thomas Cheetham is living 13 Lily road, Litherland with his family.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Kind regards Sue

Post by **dickiesam** » 27 Mar 2011 17:28

Hi Sue,
You need to get the marriage cert for Elizabeth Cheetham and Richard Jackson; first to get a better idea of their ages and YoBs, then her father's name and occupation so we can confirm her in an earlier census. Really need to narrow down her likely YoB because I think she may have died after 1881 and here's why....

1891:
HUGGINS, Anthony - Head - Married - 48 - Labourer - Co Roscommon,
Ireland.
HUGGINS, Bridget - Married - 48 - Co Roscommon, Ireland.
HUGGINS, John - Visitor - Married - 48 - Labourer out of work - Co Roscommon, Ireland.
JACKSON, Dick - Lodger - Widower - 34 - Labourer - Crosby, Lancashire.
HUGGINS, John - 5 - Scholar - Liverpool.
Address: 38 Murat Street, Great Crosby, Waterloo, Lancashire.
RG12 / Piece:2982 / Folio:39 / Page:20.

There are a number of deaths for Elizabeth Jackson 1881-91 but none with an age to match a birth year around 1856/58.

Do you have the birth cert for Thomas Cheetham born in 1877 showing the place of birth as Haskayne?

This is somewhat premature because we should have that marriage cert first to check her father's details, but:
1861:
CHEETHAM, James - Head - Married - 49 - Boatman, Leeds Liverpool canal - Halsall, Lancashire.
CHEETHAM, Elizabeth - Wife - 47 - Boatman's wife - Haskayne, Lancashire.
CHEETHAM, Alice - Dtr - U/m - 19 - House assistant - Haskayne, Lancashire.
CHEETHAM, Robert - Son - 15 - Boat mate - Haskayne, Lancashire.
CHEETHAM, Ellen - Dtr - 11 - Scholar - Haskayne, Lancashire.
CHEETHAM, Thomas - Son - 9 - Scholar - Haskayne, Lancashire.
CHEETHAM, Elizabeth - Dtr - 5 - Scholar - Haskayne, Lancashire.
Address: Haskayne Hamlet, Downholland, Lancashire.
RG09 / Piece:2758 / Folio:42 / Page:12.

Dickiesam

Post by **MaryA** » 27 Mar 2011 17:33

To give the full information for our crew

1881 living Haskayne, Downholland, Lancashire
All noted as being born Downholland
James Cheetham Head M 69 General Labourer
Elizabeth wife M 68
Elizabeth daur Unm 34 Labourer's Daur
James Grandson 14 " grandson
Thomas Grandson 3 " "
RG11; Piece: 3743; Folio: 40; Page: 5

This makes Elizabeth's date of birth as 1847 ish if this is the correct entry?

Post by **MaryA** » 27 Mar 2011 17:40

Probably the entry for 1901

45 Clifford Street, Bootle cum Linacre, Lancashire
Thomas Cheetham Head M 24 Coal Hawker Haskayne Lancashire
Jane Wife M 21 Liverpool Lancashire
Elizabeth A daur 2 Bootle "
James son 1 " "
RG13; Piece: 3461; Folio: 16; Page: 24.

Post by **MaryA** » 27 Mar 2011 17:44

There is a death that could fit for Elizabeth Jackson Q1 1891 Liverpool 8b 111 age 44, this would mean that she would be missing on the 1891 census.

There is also a possible death for Richard Q1 1900 Liverpool 8b 157 age 45, but also another Q3 1897 West Derby 8b 432 age 39.

Post by **slewis** » 27 Mar 2011 21:41

Hi all
Yes Mary A that is Thomas and family in 1901, and Elizabeth and a young Thomas in 1881, with her parents, Richard Jackson died in Lily road Litherland in 1901.
I have sent off for Thomas birth certifficate, and I have ask some one to look up Elizabeth and Richards marriage for me.
I think Elizabeth died after 1901.
Thank you for your help
Kind regards Sue

Post by **MaryA** » 27 Mar 2011 22:22

slewis wrote: I think Elizabeth died after 1901.

Did she register the death of Richard then?

Post by **slewis** » 28 Mar 2011 09:18

Hi MaryA
I have not seen Richards death certificate, but information I was given was that Elizabeth died in 1937 but that could be wrong
Sue

Post by **MaryA** » 28 Mar 2011 11:20

I think it would be worth your while to see the certificate, if she registered the death then her residence might be useful to you.

Post by **dickiesam** » 28 Mar 2011 13:31

Hello Sue,

MaryA wrote:
slewis wrote: I think Elizabeth died after 1901.
Did she register the death of Richard then?

You need to confirm that 1937 death as being your Elizabeth. The age at death for the nearest 'fit' is 82 putting her bn abt 1855.
Deaths Sep 1937: Jackson, Elizabeth - 82 - Liverpool N - 8b - 295.

DS

Post by **peawhack** » 19 May 2011 20:13

Lizzie died as a result of a house fire in Lawler Street Litherland,her daughter Martha (King) died from burns recieved in the same house a year later. I realise your enquiry was a few years ago,if you still require info please let me know.

Regards peawhack

Post by **MaryA** » 19 May 2011 21:42

Hi and welcome to the forum.

Sue is still a member of this forum and the query was raised not very long ago, so I hope she picks up this message soon and responds.

Post by **slewis** » 19 May 2011 22:23

Hi Peawhack
Thank you for getting in touch, yes I am still looking for information on the family.
kind regards Sue

Post by **Tina** » 20 May 2011 09:48

Great Peawhack that you have found this posting, welcome aboard!
Pleased for you Sue!

Tina

Post by **slewis** » 21 May 2011 14:19

Hi Tina
Thanks, nice to hear from you, hope you are well, Peawhack is indeed a cousin, we are so pleased that he found us. thanks again to this forum, I would be lost without it
bye for now Sue

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Help to find the Jackson's in 1891 please

Help to find the Jackson's in 1891 please

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