Ancestry help - WW1 Canadian Engineers - J Cochrane

[42aitch]

I am helping with the research of the WW1 Memorials for the Merseyside Roll of Honour. I am doing the Litherland Memorials and have found that a J Cochrane who served with Canadian Engineers 2nd Bn died 2/6/1916 age 38 Service Number 503370. I have found his record on CWGC which gives his parents and wife's names.

I recognised the names and address and found that I actually have them on the family tree as my husband's great uncle actually married the sister.
CWGC has him as Canadian but his name is James and he was born in Bootle.

I have looked on Ancestry under Canada - Soldiers of 1stWW but I do not have access to the record with my subscription. His name is there and I would like to see if there are any other details on this. I would like to know why he enlisted with a Canadian Regiment.

James was born 1879 in Bootle and his parents are George and Mary Cochrane. His wife is Catherine (Walsh) and he had a dgt Lilly A born 1900 and possibly twin boys James and John born 1915.

I have him on the 1901 Census and also his mother and other siblings with his daugter on the 1911. I think that I have also found his wife as an inmate at Brownlow Hill Workhouse in 1911. Could she have gone in there to give birth to another child? I have looked on FBMD but no births for 1911 with Walsh for maiden name?

I am interested in this because of the family link as well as to add to the biography for the Roll of Honour.

Eileen

[Mark Abbott]

Eileen,

Here he is:-

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/data ... nterval=20

Mark

[MaryA]

I have looked on Ancestry under Canada - Soldiers of 1stWW but I do not have access to the record with my subscription. His name is there and I would like to see if there are any other details on this.

Can you please identify for me the date of birth of the James from the inidex Canada - Soldiers of 1stWW as I don't see one with the birth date of 1879.

[Hilary]

When I need to see the full Ancestry I pop along to the local library as they have the Ancestry Library Collection which has everything. That might be a solution if noone can help.

Hilary
Ed Officer

[Tina]

Hi Eileen
It was a little later before the mothers maiden name were listed.
The wife may have been in the hospital attached to the workhouse in
19@@ census.??
Was James listed as born 1876? in W Dby rego area?
Can't find Lily bn 1900..

Tina

[42aitch]

Hi Mary,

James DOB according to his marriage certificate in 1898 is 1879, CWGC give his age in 1916 as 38 making it 1878 and the 1901 Census is 1878, 1891 is 1877 - So Take your Pick I put the date at marriage as being the best bet. There are only a couple of James Cochrane but I could not access them to check the birth dates or other details.

The Census are 1891 9 Thetis Street, As Cochram - RG12/2968/98/54
1901 - 23 Delta Street - RG13/3449/152/7 and His parents 1901 RG13/3471/99/39 at 13 Macbeth Street which was the address on his marriage.

Tina
His daughter is spelt as Lilly and DOB on 1901 census is 1900 but FreeBMD it could be June 1899 Lillie Anderson Cochrane in West Derby?
Lilly is with her grandparents in 1911 at 24 Riddock Road.

Mark.
Thanks for that but it seems to be pretty expensive to check especially if you don't know how many pages are contained in the records.



Thanks for you interest.

Eileen[/img]

[Tina]

Thanks Eileen about Lilly A in 1901.
Don't know why I couldn't find her

Tina

[MaryA]

Sorry Eileen I thought you had seen a particular entry with the dob that matched and I wasn't able to. I looked at a few entries around the appropriate date but all were in fact Canadians. His number doesn't show up any hits either.

[Katie]

I am currently working on the rank and file lists published in The Liverpool Papers for the Battle of the Somme 1916

I came across a entry for J.H. Ashworth who served with the Canadian Mounted Rifles killed October 1st 1916 his Nationality is recorded on the Commonwealth War Graves site as Canadian, however he was born in Liverpool and when in Liverpool he resided with his parents at 12 Mather Street, Dingle, and his home address in Canada was 18, Greenlaw Avenue

Here is another entry in the list for Private Arthur Francis Dorman died of wounds received in action served with the Canadian Forces his nationality again is recorded as being Canadian however he was born in Southport in 1888 and at the time of his death his parents resided at Walnut Road Southport

So if anyone is searching for a British born soldier who served with the Canadian forces, his nationality will be recorded as Canadian even though they were born in England. Back to indexing

[Katie]

Its possible that James may have gone to Canada just found this site which has incoming passenger lists to Canada there is a James Cochrane Aged 24 years arrived in Canada 27th May 1905.

http://members.shaw.ca/nanaimo.fhs/indexX.html

[MaryA]

That's an extremely useful project you are working on Katie, I can imagine it will be a huge bonus to anybody interested in their military ancestors, especially when I know you have photographs from many of the entries. A big thank you from us all for the enormous amount of work you are undertaking.

[daggers]

Katie
I have extracted all [?] the Canadian entries from the Town Hall Roll of Honour and have some of their details from Canadian archives.
If you would like to send me the names of any you are looking for, I will see I have the info.
Daggers

[Katie]

There are so many volunteers working on the Soldiers from World War one (they know who they are) so they deserve a big thank you as well.

[42aitch]

Thanks for the further input on James Cochrane, an interesting one on the emigration!

Eileen