Early 1940's Liverpool Street dircctories

[jimdene]

At the risk of being a pest and further to my search for my grandmother Ellen nee Hinds married to George Williams on 25th Dec 1894 at the Church in the Parish of St., Simon, Liverpool, I would like to say, disregard this, as it leads to nowhere.
I would however like readers to consider the letters that I had from my dear old Aunt Ada, now a centurion., She writes:
"Ellen Williams had a sister named Kate Hines (Hinds). Don’t know her married name. She lived in a street off Addison St., off Scotland Road., a very large block Council flats. Your grandmother came from a large family. I think her mother had been married twice, because her brothers and sisters had different surnames.
The name Billy Beasley was mentioned quite often, don’t know who he was, but grandmother had step brothers and sisters. One was Auntie Kate. She lived near the bottom of Scotland road in a street on the right side going towards the City".
When my eldest sister was evacuated during the war from Kent to Liverpool to escape the bombing, (Herr Hitler must have known she was going up there), my mother and the rest of the four kids went up to bring her home in around 1943.
During this time my Aunt took us to see an elderly woman in bed, the name Auntie Kate rings a bell. Twice in my childhood I took to using a handkerchief to cover the smell, the other when I had piano practice.
Could this have been the Kate Hines /Hinds/Beasley.
I would very much appreciate the possibility of a kind reader visiting the Liverpool Library and check to see if their were such names in that area at the time in the Street Directories

[colette]

Hi Jim

is there any witneses on the marriage of Ellen..your elderly aunt seems to know a little but not enough to track Ellen down.

Feel like i am going round in circles looking for her the name Beasley is throwing me out too.. as we dont know if this is the man Ellens mother ended up with if so they mustn't have married as i can't see a marriage for a Beasley -Hinds

any more clues ???

[jimdene]

Thanks for the reply Colette
The marriage certificate shows Edward Cooper and Elizabeth Vine as witnesses. No direct surnames with the couple unfortunately.
Ellen age 18, address was 82 Lime Street . I believe I found this somewhere as being a hotel, but she didn't show up in the 1891 census.
I can not find her as Ellen Hinds in either the 1881 or 1891 census, which suggests a marriage, if there was one, between her mother and James Hinds after 1891. As a Mariner, he doesn't appear in any census with that occupation

[Tina]

Hi Crew
Could the block of flats be Fontenoy Gardens? it was off Addison St.

Bedridden Kate would have been born around 1871??

Tina

[colette]

Hi all


We dont know if Ellen's mum was first married to a Hinds and then to someone else or vice verser..did Ellen take the name Hinds or was she born with it.

There isn't one born in Liverpool c 1876 which makes me think she wasn't born Hinds/Hind etc.
If Kate was born Catherine there are 3 possibles

Births Sep 1878

HINDS Catherine Liverpool 8b 43


Births Dec 1878

Hinds Catherine Liverpool 8b 64


Births Mar 1879

Hinds Catherine Liverpool 8b 145


Then again we dont know if Kate was born Hinds , all we have is a name of JAMES HINDS as Ellen's father paternal or Step father this is the question...


They seem to live in the Everton area, any possible family may live near by.

xx