Married by Pun ?

Post by **germaine cowell** » 25 Sep 2010 21:17

Can anyone tell me what this means please.
As in below.

Germaine
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Marriage: 25 Apr 1720 St Michael, St Michael's on Wyre, Lancashire, England
James Bathersby -
Elizabeth Parker -
Married by Pun
Notes: Travellers

Post by **Tina** » 26 Sep 2010 10:43

Hi Germaine

Is this record from Lancs OPC?
If yes, fingers crossed one of our cluey folk will know what is means.

All the best
Tina

Post by **germaine cowell** » 26 Sep 2010 10:57

Hi Tina yes it is.
Germaine
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Post by **Hilary** » 26 Sep 2010 16:44

It just happens that I have a copy of the Lancashire Parish Register Society no 143 St Michael's on Wyre (1707 - 1765) so I looked up the marriage there. They are very reputable transcribers. Their entry reads

1720 April 25 James Bathersby (Battersby) & Elizabet Parker, travellers Pub

The abbreviation Pub appears a lot and in the list of abbreviations at the front of the book it has

pub/pu/P Publication (of banns)

I therefore think you can take it as the marriage took place after the banns were called ie not by licence.

Hope that helps

Hilary
Ed Officer

Post by **germaine cowell** » 26 Sep 2010 16:47

Ah thanks Hilary that makes more sense.
Germaine
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Post by **Hilary** » 27 Sep 2010 09:09

I had a look in the book for other possible entries for the couple and found

Baptism
31 Oct 1725 Anne d James Bathersby (Battersby) (traveller)

Burials
26 March 1721
John s James Bathersby (Battersby) Tarn (a traveller)

However at the same time as the James of the marriage entry there is another James Batehrsby (Battersby) of Out Rawcliffe having children baptised. His marriage is not recorded at St Michaels on Wyre. His wife's name is not given on the entries.

Hope this helps

Hilary
Ed Officer

Post by **germaine cowell** » 27 Sep 2010 09:50

Thanks Hilary will have a look at these . My James must have been alive in 1738 got a daughter born then. So this could have been his father.
Germaine
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Post by **Tina** » 27 Sep 2010 09:58

Brilliant E.O

Tina

Post by **Hilary** » 27 Sep 2010 11:12

The James I meant was having children at the same time as your James he couldn't have been your James' father. What I suppose I meant was have you got the correct James.

Is your person Margaret d of James Battersby, Up Raw 3 Sept 1739 ?

If yes I would suggest that this is not the traveller James (because traveller is not inserted by his name) but the other James who was earlier of Out Rawcliffe. Of course the traveller may have decided to settle down in the area.

I would investigate deaths, leases and wills in the area to see if there are 2 James living in the area later.

Hilary
Ed Officer