Irish Ancestors - Part 2

[BurscoughLad]

My problem is similar to Yappie's, which I have just been reading.

I looked at GRIFFITH'S VALUATION and this led me to a number of locations, but not so many that it would be impossible to carry out a comprehensive search. Though jt might take a determined effort to carry it through!!

However, having seen the 1901 census data, I am now wondering if there is
such a thing as a searchable list of street names for Ireland.

I have been hung up on looking for a village / hamlet named Darrow (Daragh?) Green, but looking on the map for Claremont there is a "Fair Green", which is in effect a street of the village.

So, can anyone comment on this for me.

I really do want to locate my G. grandfather's birthplace (born ca 1840) and see if he had any other family who may - or may not - have come to Liverpool sometime before 1860, when he married a Liverpool lass.

[MaryA]

I don't have a great deal of knowledge about Irish research generally, I think many of us in England find it difficult - Dickiesam is often a godsend on this board, particularly for his own area.

If you don't get a reply here, I would suggest you try a board that might have members with first hand knowledge of the area you are interested in. www.rootschat.com have a General Ireland board and also child boards for the counties. You need to register before posting but it is free.

[dickiesam]

Hi BurscoughLad,
There is at least 1 village called Durrow and that name you have could well refer to a townland. This is a term unique to Ireland and is a very old, like ancient, term for an area of land. Can be from a couple of acres to several hundred. Often the name reflects a geographical feature such as a big rock or a well. For instance, Ballintubber in Co Galway is an anglicised corruption of the Irish for 'townland of the well'. Many Irish place-names were anglicised phonetically in the mid 19th century by the occupying English around the time of Griffith's Valuation. While the name may sound almost the same it now bears little relation to what the original Irish meant.

My village has at least 7 townlands within the parish boundary. There are often several townlands of the same name in various counties in the country.

Can you post the info that led you to the name which I understand you found in the 1901 census, including the county? I'll put me Irish thinking cap on!

Dickiesam

[Hilary]

You might find these helpful -

IreAtlas Townland Search Form
14 Jun 1999 ... A search engine of the IreAtlas Townland data base.
www.seanruad.com/

or

Irish Ancestors/Placenames
The single most important item of information for Irish family history research is a ... Index to the Townlands and Towns, parishes and Baronies of Ireland. ...
www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/

I remember gettig involved in finding townlands for a friend - it was very interesting!

Hilary
Ed Officer

[Hilary]

I think you need to find the civil parish for the ecclesiastical parish

Civil parishes of Ireland
Interactive Irish parish maps. ... News · Ireland · World · In Depth · IrishTimes150 · Today's Paper · Weather ... Civil parishes. Click on a county. ...
http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/brow ... /index.cfm

Hilary
Ed Officer

[dickiesam]

Just looked at the census page for 1871 and I am fairly sure that place name is Durrow. RG10 / Piece:3815 / Folio:103 / Page:32

There's a photo of the Green at Durrow in County Laois here and the Green is still there. http://www.panoramio.com/photo/9289942

Because John Redding worked as a 'British' Board of Trade Superintendent it is likely he was of Anglo-Irish stock and probably C of I [C of E in England!]. He would have been quite well educated whereas the working class Irish had little access to a decent education, let alone a good one.

What led you to Claremont in North Tipperary? I see you have mentioned Borrisokane on another forum that popped up when I searches for Darrow. Borriskane is not far from Claremont.

Dickiesam

[BurscoughLad]

By now you will be thinking that I am an ungrateful (individual!).

But not been on the site for about a month due to holidays, builders and doing a spot of DIY tiling.

So, what a busy and informative lot you have been. There is quite a lot to pursue here so thank you all so very much for your efforts and interest.

I have a hunch (very small one!) that Co Clare is where my GG grandfather came from, that is why I looked at Claremont in the Griffith Evaluation.

As I have said lots of investigative notes to be done

Thank you all once again - A veritable hive of information

regards

[Lorraine]

Good morning, I have Fairclough in one of my families. Can you refer me to any posts about this group.

Lorraine.

[BurscoughLad]

Hello Lorraine,

Good evening from up over!!

Catherine Fairclough was my wife's GG Grandmother (1811 - 1874)

I haven't got a great deal of info as yet on this line, but I will investigate if you feel it could be of help.

I think she was born in Aughton (abt 13 miles north of Liverpool and just south of Ormskirk). She died in Netherton, which was a tiny village where my wife lived with her parents. My wife married from there.
Netherton is about 8 miles north of Liverpool.

Catherine married Thomas Hale. One of the daughters was Ann Hale (1829 - 1882).
Ann married Edward Rothwell and one of the daughters was Mary (1855 - 1906)
Mary married Henry Wainwright.

I have more info but I would need to dig it out. I would also investigate the siblings of Catherine F if you think it might be connected.

Hope this helps

Talk soon

[Lorraine]

Thanks very much. I will send you all the details by personal message and just list the names on this site.

Lorraine.