New name (to me anyhow)

Post by **PJLong** » 06 Jul 2010 17:17

Evening all.
Am stuck on a name. In 1912 Wrexham, Mary Whitehall married.......LUPY Holmes. Now this is a new one on me! I have LUPPY Holmes on the 1911 census aged 34 born Lancs, Birkdale. Can anyone let me into the secret of the correct name for Lupy/Luppy as I'm not sure what to search for in births (around 1877)
Thanks everyone.
Pauline.

Post by **Gray** » 06 Jul 2010 17:41

Hi Pauline,

Looked on Free BMD

Lu-y Holmes Ormskirk Dec 1877 8b 765
Cannot look at the original though.

Same on Anc*****
Lu-y Lancashire 4th qtr 1877 8b 765
Here you can look at the image, it says Lupy.

Am wondering if this a typo for LUCY??

Edit: Think I'm ready for a holiday, can't be Lucy for a fella!

Grayx :

Post by **PJLong** » 06 Jul 2010 17:47

Hee hee.....I spotted that one too - I sure am ready for a holiday! I was thinking maybe "Leopold"? It's an odd one isn't it? The fact that his marriage is reg as LUPY too......don't we get 'em eh!

Post by **Gray** » 06 Jul 2010 17:50

Hi Pauline,

Don't we just!!!!

Grayx

Although John Wayne was Marion!!

Post by **Gray** » 06 Jul 2010 18:12

Hi Pauline,

Wondering if this means anything?

IGI trial site:

Looks like the name is Lupy

There is a marriage for a Francis Holmes

Grooms dob 1912 aged 20
Brides Name: Thomasina Ela Frances Golding
Brides dob 1912 aged 20
marr date:27/12/1932
Marr place:New Ferry Cheshire
Groom's father's name: LUPY Holmes
Bride's father's name: William Golding
System origin: England EAsy
Batch No: 105038-7
Source Film No: 2197437
Ref No: 7e 44

Grayx

Post by **PJLong** » 06 Jul 2010 18:47

Hmmmm....now, here's the thing. Francis (Frank) Holmes is the father of the chap I'm getting a tree for. Now, John's Mum was Esme I. Farrington. She married Francis in 1912, Wirral. Francis Holmes birth reg 1912 Wrexham. Mother nee Whitehall. Found Whitehall/ Holmes marriage on Anc***** . Oddly 3q 1912....same as birth of Francis! Something fishy here! It's that name that's fuddling me though. LUPY....I ask you!

Post by **PJLong** » 06 Jul 2010 18:50

Oooh, could be possible as Francis married Esme in 1934?

Post by **Blue70** » 06 Jul 2010 19:27

The name Lupy could be a shorter version of Lupus there was a Saint Lupus. Some of these strange names come from religious sources.

Blue

Post by **PJLong** » 06 Jul 2010 19:34

Hi Blue. Just had a breakthrough. Spoke to Lupy's grandson who says Lupy died around 1970 aged NINETY or so! I have found just one death for a Holmes in the area.....John Holmes died aged 91. Shall crack on backwards as I have him on the 1901 now. By all accounts he was a character!

Post by **PJLong** » 06 Jul 2010 22:22

Got him!!!!! Birth registered 3q 1877. LUPY HOLMES. Ormskirk. Now got Mum and Dad too. So I've learnt another new name!