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Fresher eyes than mine please.

Post by bigmamma »

Hi Guys,
Can any of you youngsters please have a decko at a coule of queries for me please.
1. On 1891 census RG12..2965..33..18 in the name of HOOKS. it gives the birthplace of Frederick dob c.1848 as Hanover, Germany but just at the top of this I'm sure it says "British .....?" If this is "British Cit" does than mean he may have taken citizanship and if yes then is there anyway I can find anymore information on this?
2. On another 1891 census RG12..2905..46..2 ....John Parkinson & family ...is the address 49 Athol Street and lastlly (tonight at least) on 1901 again John Parkinson & family is the address 104 Boundry Street?
Sorry to ask but my eyes are so tired and I can't get to the records office till Tuesday but I can have the computer again on Sunday!
Thanks again in advance for your help Jackie :)

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Post by LindaS »

On FMP its got him down as Hanover
Germany British Subject

John Parkinson is 49, Chandlers Shop, Athol Street, Liverpool

1901 is 104 Boundry St
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I think Linda has answered most of your questions, but just confirming the "British Subject" above Hanover Germany.

I think we've come across many instances of foreigners having this against their name, but just how legal the entry is I don't know. It may be just that the person is unofficially accepted as such due to either the length of time they have lived in England, or because they married here.

If indeed he became Naturalised legally any information may be held at Kew, see the National Archives Looking for Naturalised Britons but advice from this site advises "Note that many people called themselves naturalised British citizens in the census when they were not."
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British subject..

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Hi,
As far as I know, the notation 'British Subject' meant the person was born overseas of a British father and therefore entitled to be called British.

'British Cit(izen)' would usually mean the person was Naturalised, either officially or unofficially.

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Post by garstonite »

Google timesonline and look for the Archives link ...a large % of Foreigners who were given Naturalisation Papers were printed in the Times...I think to get your Papers you had to Publish your old and new name....good luck Jackie...allan :)

bigmamma

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Post by bigmamma »

Thank you everyone for your help, this forum never fails to support us learners. :)
LindaS...Thanks so much for your speedy reply. Glad my eyes are good for another round.
MaryA...Thanks for that info Mary. As far as I can make out at the moment (and I don't know why I think this!) but I think he came to Englans just before his marriage in 1867 (to Julia Duggan) when he was aged 20 but still going to check out that link you supplied. Thank you.
dickiesam...Thank you for that dickiesam. An educational snippet to keep for future reference. (oh didn't that sound posh...I'm not really..hehe)

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