Directory look-up, please 1914-18 period

Post by **daggers** » 27 Mar 2010 14:43

Looking for information on Rev. James Bodel, a Liverpool vicar. His son, Ernest, was killed in France serving in the King's Regiment in 1917, and may have been a barrister before joining up.
Any clues on address etc around 1917/18 welcome.
Daggers

Post by **erika** » 27 Mar 2010 17:48

1914 Directory

Rev James Bodel 187 Stanley Road, Bootle

Frederic Ernest Bodel Barrister-at-law 25 Lord St W
residence 187 Stanley Road, Bootle

Cheers
Erika

Post by **dickiesam** » 27 Mar 2010 18:00

Hi Daggers,
You probably have this already? From the 1901:
BODEL, James - Head - Married - 51 - 1850 - Presbyterian Minister - Ireland.
BODEL, Cassie - Wife - Married - 42 - 1859 - Ireland.
BODEL, Lilian - Dtr - Single - 24 - 1877 - Ireland.
BODEL, Kathleen - Dtr - Single - 22 - 1879 - Bootle, Lancashire.
BODEL, Fred - Son - Single - 19 - 1882 - Bootle, Lancashire.
ARMSTRONG, Sarah - Servant - Single - 21 - 1880 - Cook (Domestic) - Ireland.
MASHADA, Josephine - Servant - Single - 17 - 1884 - Housemaid Domestic
- Bootle, Lancashire.
RG13 - Piece: 3459 - Folio: 36 - Page: 3.
Address: 187 Stanley Road, Bootle Cum Linacre,

Births Jun 1881:
BODEL, Frederick Ernest - W. Derby - 8b - 464.

Dickiesam

Post by **daggers** » 27 Mar 2010 22:26

Thank you for the details. I should correct my post, as avicar is different from a minister!
Too late, though.
D

Post by **dickiesam** » 27 Mar 2010 23:00

With the daughter Lilian being born in Ireland abt 1877 I checked the Irish Civil BMDs and found an Alice Lilian Bodel born in 1877 in Monaghan reg District.

Looked for a James Bodel marriage between 1870 and 1877 and found 4. 1872 in Lurgan; 1874 in Banbridge; 1874 in Monaghan and 1875 in Belfast. Apart from Monaghan, all those districts are in what is now Northern Ireland. There were no spouses named as the site is not yet fully up and running.

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsea ... searchable

Dickiesam

Post by **Tina** » 28 Mar 2010 09:27

1911 Directory
Frederic Ernest Bodel LL.B
Barrister at Law
same as 1914
Rev James Bodel B.A Presbyterian
same as 1914

1911 census West Derby
James Bodel bn Ire 61
Frederick Ernest 30
Cassie bn Ire 52

There was a Welsh Presbyterian Church on the corner of Stanley Rd & Trinity Rd.

Tina

Post by **daggers** » 28 Mar 2010 09:45

More thanks for the extras.
The son was a captain in the King's Regiment and won the Military Cross before his death in July 1917. His name is one of many with no known grave, inscribed on the Menin Gate Memorial at Ypres or Iper.
D

Post by **Tina** » 28 Mar 2010 10:40

Hi Daggers
Have been doing the family tree for my Scots mate.
Sent her the link to the Menin Gate where the Last Post is played every evening.
Both of us were so distressed to see the inside walls covered with so many names.
God bless them all.
http://en.wikipedia.org:80/wiki/File:Me ... t_Post.jpg

Tina

Lest We Forget

Post by **daggers** » 28 Mar 2010 13:30

Tina
It is indeed a very moving event [ was there in '00'] and amazing to think that it has been carried out for so long. The Belgians are very conscious of the relationship and give a lot of respect to these ceremonies.
D

Post by **Lesley Black** » 28 Mar 2010 15:44

Hi Daggers
Will be at the Menin Gate in just over 2 wks time, will say an extra prayer
Lesley

Post by **jan44** » 28 Mar 2010 16:04

Hi Daggers,

I have had a look in the old newspapers and there are several articles in certain years that name Rev James Bodel B.A as the minister for Trinity Presbyterian church Bootle, there is also a mention of Emmanuel church Bootle.

Jan

Post by **jan44** » 28 Mar 2010 16:46

Daggers,

1881 census transcribed on anc as James (B.A) Badel bn 1850 Ireland

Living at 29 Stanley Road Bootle RG 11 3693 folio 5 page 4.

I have sent you a PM.

Jan

Post by **MaryA** » 28 Mar 2010 19:45

Thanks for posting that link Tina, what a huge memorial.

Lesley, say one from all of us please and enjoy your trip.

Bless them.

Post by **daggers** » 29 Mar 2010 07:55

The pic is of only a small part of the Menin Gate Memorial - it contains the names of 54,896 officers and men from all the overseas British and Commonwealth forces who fell in the Ypres Salient before 16th August 1917.

If Lesley is aiming to look for particular names, it is as well to do some research beforehand. They are laid out in order of seniority of regiments, then within those lists, by rank. You can narrow down the places to look, but it still takes time and a good pair of eyes!
D

Post by **Lesley Black** » 30 Mar 2010 20:06

I will do Mary, went to the Thiepval Memorial 2 yrs ago to lay a cross in memory of my Gt Uncle who was killed on the 1st day of the battle of the Somme - no grave just a name on the Memorial.

Visited some of the cemeteries too, so heartbreaking, don't think I'll ever get over seeing row upon row of pristine white stones

Lesley

Post by **MaryA** » 30 Mar 2010 21:00

You might be interested in seeing some pictures from the Rheinberg CWGC Cemetery with rows of those graves. Luckily my uncle has a headstone as well as a mention on the memorial.

Rheinberg CWGC Cemetery