Robinson Family of Kirkdale

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Tina
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Thanks dickiesam for the prompt.
I remember now about the cab driver etc.
The workhouses seem to have been very adaptable to help folk.
Jan said on page one she had found family in 1901 unless she meant just Reuben?

I think Elizabeth Jane died in 1897 W Dby aged 46 bn 1851circa.

Arthur & Frank are in Wavertree with sister Jane A who married a Kendrick.

Bessie may have married John Helsby in 1900 Wavertree St Bridget's (where I was baptised!)
1901 in Ono St...know that like the back of my hand :)
Helena is a toughie, as you know she could be Nellie/Ellen/Eleanor/Helen........
She may have been Helena Mary bn 1882 W Dby?
Haven't had time to check out Lizzie.


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I'm afraid I don't think that someone in the workhouse would be living there and have an outside job. The workhouse was the last resort when someone had absolutely nothing. The registers list the person's occupation ie their last job and what they will do when they hopefully can find employment and leave the workhouse.

If you look at the www.workhouses.org website you will see a copy of the form that was filled in by the workhouse and it includes occupation. The site also says that inmates were not allowed out without permission - the few reasons given do not include a job.

Some workhouse records still survive and it may be worth trying to see if those you want exist and find out more about why the person was admitted. I found an ancestor of mine. He and his family had nothing, he was out of employment (his occupation is given in the register) and despite having parents and siblings he states no relatives or friends. presumably he didn't wish them to know the desperate straits he found himself in.

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Hello Hilary,
Thanks for the correction to the mistaken impression I had about having an 'outside' job while an 'inmate' in a workhouse. As you gathered I was quite sure about the 'facility'. Been trying to think of where the notion came from... I think it may have been a family story handed down the generations. I usually disregard those tales until verified. I'll add that one to my list of stories that were in reality a cover-up of an otherwise awkward or very embarrassing situation.
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Thanks everyone for your help. I have now applied for a Marraige Cert of John and Elizebeth Jane and hope to go on from there tracing their parents. I believe John's father died young and his mother remarried but I can't confirm until I have the certificates.
As we say in Wales Diolch Yn Fawr (A big thankyou)

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Haydn..
Croeso, hwyl fawr!

And keep us updated.

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Just to let you know I have now received the Marraige Certificate of John and Elizebeth Jane. They were married at St Georges Church in the Parish of St Georges on 18th June 1870. Elizebeths maiden name was indeed Fletcher. John's father was Richard Robinson and Elizebeth's father's name was Benjamin. Now I have John's Father's details I can apply for his birth certificate and then go back to Richard and his wife.
Richard was a Carter and Benjamin was a Peddler

John and Elizebeth lived at Bedford Place, Leeds when the were married.

Thanks again for your help I will keep you updated as I progress.

Haydn

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