1891 lookup by SKP

Post by **PJLong** » 17 Jan 2010 13:03

Wonder if SKP. might have a look for some "missing" folk on the 1891 census. I've scoured Anc till I'm weary and frustrated. Can't find any trace of:
Andrew Lindsay b abt 1860 Scotland
Archibald Nelson Lindsay b abt 1867 Scotland
James Angus Lindsay b abt 1865 Scotland
John Lindsay b abt 1863 Scotland
William Lindsay b abt 1872 Liverpool

I've their mother as Bella LINSEY - widow - along with grandaughter, Victoria 6, in Bolton St. Where the heck did all the boys go?
I'd be very grateful if someone can spot them!
Cheers,
Pauline.

Post by **Hilary** » 17 Jan 2010 13:21

Unfortunately no

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I would alter your post to just ask if forum members could see if they could find the missing persons in 1891. What are their occuaptions on other censuses? Could they be at sea or visiting family in Scotland?

Hilary
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Post by **PJLong** » 17 Jan 2010 13:50

Ah.....cheers Hilary. Shall re-phrase my request!

Occupations all Dock lab or Gen lab. Searched through Scottish 1891 too - where ARE they hiding. I'm wondering now if they are under a mis-spelling?
Pauline.

Post by **dickiesam** » 17 Jan 2010 18:04

Hello Pauline,
I suggest you should get the birth cert for Bella's g.dtr Victoria. It will tell you which of Bella's sons was the father, where he was living and his occupation.
Births Sep 1885: Lindsay, Victoria - Liverpool - 8b - 130.

Have you checked for any matching deaths for the sons on FreeBMD?

Dickiesam

Post by **PJLong** » 17 Jan 2010 18:16

Hello there Dickiesam.

Victoria belongs to Andrew and Adelaide. I have them on the 1901 census. Living in Mansfield Street. There's another daughter too, Margaret, who looks to be born around 1889 (RG13/3424) So where was she on the 1891????

Got Archibald in 1901 too...at 24 Wordsworth Street.

William is my GGrandfather and is at Limekiln Lane in 1901.

There's another member also having trouble tracking down these boys - her line is their eldest sibling Margaret Lindsay born around 1857. She's safely installed in Govan with her hubby in 1901....no, no visiting brothers!!!!

Difficult to search for deaths for the other two as the names are so common...John and James!

I can only think the boys ALL went off somewhere together? Adelaide (Andrew's missus) is also missing! Where on earth were they?
Pauline.

Post by **MaryA** » 17 Jan 2010 18:25

We're bobbing around from one post to another, I like facts in front of me and so here is the 1881 census.
13 House, 13 Court, Bolton Street, Islington, LIverpool
Bella Lindsay Head W 40 Charwoman Scotland
Andrew Son 20 General Lab Scotland
Archibald son 14 No occu Scotland
John son 18 General Lab Scotland
William son 8 Scholar Lancs Liverpool
RG11; Piece: 3628; Folio: 99; Page: 41

Is it possible the Curries - John 44 and Mary 40, both born Scotland, son Henry 15 born Liverpool and daur Mary 11 born Scotland, might be connected in any way since they are sharing a house, albeit in separate dwellings.

Post by **MaryA** » 17 Jan 2010 18:30

Can you state here which of the boys might be married in 1891 and who to, their dobs and birthplaces.

I can't figure out what age I'm searching for Adelaide and where she was born

Post by **PJLong** » 17 Jan 2010 18:34

Hello there Mary....Curries mean 'owt to me (apart from being darn careful which one I order!)
Seriously - no connection that I've come across.
Bella's maiden name was Jackson. So not her rellies by name anyway.
She'd come down from Glasgow around 1868 - 1870 with hubby, John, and all kids except William. I have John Lindsay's death as 1872.
Not checked if Isabella had a sister, Mary, but will get onto it!

Post by **PJLong** » 17 Jan 2010 18:39

Just a quick reply...Adelaide was Adelaide Rigby Noble born Liverpool abt 1864. She married Andrew Lindsay in 1882 at St Simon, Liverpool.

Archibald married Christina H. Cuckson in 1885.

William (ggrandad) married Annie Parkinson Dec 25th 1891 at St Peters.

Not found marriages for James Angus or John yet.

Post by **PJLong** » 17 Jan 2010 18:52

Isabella Lindsay dies Nov 1893 at Liverpool Workhouse. 62 years......she's widow of John Lindsay - joiner - of 2ct 6h Hawke Street. Informant is A. Lindsay, son. 2c 6h Hawke Street. Could be Andrew or Archibald!

Post by **MaryA** » 17 Jan 2010 19:04

Has this entry been found? Surely it would be too much of a coincidence for it not to be one of yours in view of the address

31 Bolton Street, Islington, Liverpool
John Raines Head Widr 61 and son John age 31 Coal Man
A Linsay Lodger S 28 born Scotland
RG12; Piece: 2919; Folio 8; Page 10

Post by **PJLong** » 17 Jan 2010 19:27

Way too much of a coincidence Mary....considering the address for Bella in 1891 is 3h 13 ct BOLTON Street. She's at the same in 1881.......so looks like he's one of mine - but which one? Andrew is 38 on the 1901 so would fit with him...but he was married? Should look for a death for Adelaide now shouldn't I?
How on earth do you know where to look for these things!!!!

There are CURREY's in that house too!

Post by **dickiesam** » 17 Jan 2010 19:35

Re:

Got Archibald in 1901 too...at 24 Wordsworth Street.

If you are referring to the 1901 census and Wordsworth Street, Toxteth Park, #24 is occupied by the Gilmours and relatives. Can you post the Census page reference where you found Archibald in 1901?

Dickiesam

Post by **PJLong** » 17 Jan 2010 19:41

Here we go....RG13/3462. He's a Millers Carter!

Post by **dickiesam** » 17 Jan 2010 19:45

PJLong wrote:Here we go....RG13/3462. He's a Millers Carter!

Hi,
Can you give the full reference? RG13 - Piece: 3462 - Folio: ? - Page ?
Thanks,
Dickiesam

Post by **PJLong** » 17 Jan 2010 19:50

Oooops - sorry! RG13 - Piece: 3462 Folio 144 page 47.

Post by **MaryA** » 17 Jan 2010 20:24

I wonder if this entry is worth considering, we all know how ages are often out a bit.

Transcribed LINKEY
1 Hook Street, St Martin, Liverpool
James Lindsay Head M 29 Labourer (General) Scotland
Catherine Wife M 30 Liverpool
James son 5 Liverpool
John son 3 "
RG12; Piece: 2903; Folio 77; Page 17

There is a possible marriage between James Lindsay and Catherine Gill, Q1 1882 (Liverpool 8b 265), St Titus, Liverpool, might be worth asking for a look up.

Post by **PJLong** » 17 Jan 2010 20:38

Anything is worth considering at the moment Mary!!!! Looking at the names again....John and James are certainly hand me downs eh? I don't take an awful lot of notice of ages ....they've been miles out before! Shall apply myself to this one too.

It's grand to see possibilities.........but no darn William as yet! The only one I can find belongs to Mary....with his brother Thomas. Not mine sadly!

I don't like to ask for look ups as I'm only over the water myself but shall pluck up courage.

That's defo "Lindsay" now I've looked at it!

Post by **Tina** » 18 Jan 2010 07:49

Hi Mary

Just to say great find A Linsay the lodger.
Gotta be!!

Tina

Post by **PJLong** » 18 Jan 2010 08:36

Fantastic. Isn't Mary a super sleuth!
At least I reckon we have one brother for defo..... James
BUT why was Andrew lodging? He has a wife and two kids. One is with nan but the other?
Now need to find Archibald and William.
If only we knew what went on in those days? Shall get the shopping done (more snow forecast later in the week) and get settled to search for deaths. Got the Lindsay bug again!
Pauline.

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