david roberts born circa 1802 Liverpool

Post by **Cliff** » 24 Nov 2009 16:29

I am trying to trace the parents and any address and date of birth for the above named.He married Elizabeth Williams on 10th August 1828 at Holy Trinity Liverpool and their children,Jane b.1832,Thomas D. 1834,Elizabeth
1836,Charles J.1838 and Emma 1841 were all born in Manchester.
David was a letter press printer.

Any help with info would be greatly appreciated.

Cliff

Post by **Hilary** » 24 Nov 2009 17:06

Do you have a census reference for the family in 1851 or any other census for that matter? If so could you please post it as I cannot find the family. These would give some ideas as to were both David and his wife were born.

I presume you have one of the children's birth certificates to know the maiden name of Elizabeth?

Ed Officer

Post by **irenew** » 24 Nov 2009 18:29

Hi this family are listed on a family tree on ancestry
1841 census manchester
1851 wigan
1861 wilmott terr everton liverpool
1871 hulme

Irene

Post by **Hilary** » 24 Nov 2009 18:39

Good find Irene the information wanted all seems to be there.

ed Officer

Post by **irenew** » 24 Nov 2009 18:46

Hopefully cliff has access to ancestry, Irene

Post by **Hilary** » 24 Nov 2009 19:59

His local library will have even if he hasn't his own subscription.

Ed Officer

Post by **Cliff** » 24 Nov 2009 20:04

c.roberts199@btinternet.c wrote:I am trying to trace the parents and any address and date of birth for the above named.He married Elizabeth Williams on 10th August 1828 at Holy Trinity Liverpool and their children,Jane b.1832,Thomas D. 1834,Elizabeth
1836,Charles J.1838 and Emma 1841 were all born in Manchester.
David was a letter press printer.

Any help with info would be greatly appreciated.

Cliff

Hi all.You are quick off the mark! In 1841 Census they are in Deansgate Manchester and in Callender Yard Wigan in 1851 Census.I have Charles J and Emma's birth certificates that confirm parents names and occupation.
You are probably aware that the marriage in 1828 only contains the names of the couple getting married.

I have posted my tree on Ancestry.

Cheers

Cliff

Post by **MaryA** » 24 Nov 2009 20:50

Letterpress printer - possibly a couple of bob more than a labour would have - it might be worth checking for a Will, I've had surprises about who have been named in Wills before now, there could be siblings named.

Do you know where he is buried and if there is a headstone?

Post by **Hilary** » 24 Nov 2009 20:57

One of the trees on Ancestry gives David's parents and a christening is this not your man?

There are 2 christenings on www.familysearch.org for David Roberts in 1802 at St Peters Liverpool. Further inspection of the entries might lead to which one is yours.

Ed Officer

Post by **Cliff** » 24 Nov 2009 22:17

MaryA wrote:Letterpress printer - possibly a couple of bob more than a labour would have - it might be worth checking for a Will, I've had surprises about who have been named in Wills before now, there could be siblings named.

Do you know where he is buried and if there is a headstone?

Hi MaryA

I have not yet got a date of death for him.He is in 1871 Census but nothing after that.I have his wife's death certificate.She died in 1868
in Toxteth Park.
I'll check out your suggestion on wills but I felt I needed more info.Maybe his occupation may throw something up.

Many thanks

Cliff

Post by **Cliff** » 24 Nov 2009 22:21

Education Officer wrote:One of the trees on Ancestry gives David's parents and a christening is this not your man?

There are 2 christenings on www.familysearch.org for David Roberts in 1802 at St Peters Liverpool. Further inspection of the entries might lead to which one is yours.

Ed Officer

Hi Ed Officer

I have details of christenings thanks.His parents names would obviously.
I will keep digging. I have not seen the entries on Ancestry, they must be recent.I'll go and check thanks.

Cliff

Post by **Cliff** » 25 Nov 2009 14:11

c.roberts199@btinternet.c wrote:
Education Officer wrote:One of the trees on Ancestry gives David's parents and a christening is this not your man?

There are 2 christenings on www.familysearch.org for David Roberts in 1802 at St Peters Liverpool. Further inspection of the entries might lead to which one is yours.

Ed Officer
Hi Ed Officer

I have details of christenings thanks.His parents names would obviously.
I will keep digging. I have not seen the entries on Ancestry, they must be recent.I'll go and check thanks.

Cliff

I have checked trees on Ancestry.I know them well!
However they have both listed the names and no details.The names look like they are from the 1802 March record.I need to verify parents names before entering on my tree.

Cliff

Post by **irenew** » 25 Nov 2009 17:38

Hi Cliff Have you contacted the other people on ancestry, i know its a long shot as some people dont reply. i,m going tomorrow to the lro so i will have a look at both entries for 1802 Irene

Post by **Cliff** » 25 Nov 2009 18:11

irenew wrote:Hi Cliff Have you contacted the other people on ancestry, i know its a long shot as some people dont reply. i,m going tomorrow to the lro so i will have a look at both entries for 1802 Irene

Hi Irene

Thanks for your message. I have been in recent contact with the other two tree members and I have checked their input for David Roberts'
parents.They are just two names with no other details.The ones now on their trees are David Roberts and Jane Williams who are shown as parents
for the christening on 21st March 1802 at St Nicholas in Liverpool.I do not know whether or not Banns Records or Parish Registers would throw any light on details of parents.It may be that I will also have to visit LRO.
However. I think I have found David's date of death and have ordered
a copy of the certificate.Barrow in Furness in 1877 looks really promising
because David lived with his son Charles and family and his grandson was born in Barrow in Furness.

I will be very interested in seeing if you unearth anything I can follow up.
Thank you very much for looking.

Cliff

Post by **irenew** » 26 Nov 2009 17:00

Hi Cliff I have checked the records for st peters today i done 1801 1802 1803 but could not find the entries that family search have listed. the print is poor but i,m confident i could read every entry. so maybe someone else could double check. Its a shame as the address of parents is listed
Irene

Post by **simone** » 02 Dec 2009 10:47

I can't see the baptisms on familysearch for 1802, only 2 at St Nicks

I must be losing it

Simone x

Post by **irenew** » 02 Dec 2009 19:44

Hi Simone I have checked the st nicks but both fathers were mariners, sorry i should have posted a message on the board Irene

Post by **simone** » 02 Dec 2009 21:52

Thanks Irene

not to worry, I just thought I was going mad

but then I probably am

Simone x

Post by **irenew** » 03 Dec 2009 11:50

Join the club Irene

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