Edmund Aughton killed in action

[brendan123]

One of my wife's ancester's was killed at the Battle of Jutland on the HMS Invinciple , as you may already know , she went to the bottom after being shelled by enemy fire , taking nearly all hands with her, bar the odd few . Edmund Aughton was a Stoaker First class and was born in Scarisbrick , I have his Birth Certificate ,alas , it fails to show where in Scarisbrick . his dear Mother is buried in the RC Section of Duke Street , alone , her name was Sarah Aughton nee Wadsworth , hence why Edmund 's name appears on some War Memorial's as Edmund Wadsworth Aughton . for many years , the Southport Council had ommited him from the Town centre Memorial , [no reason known ] we had a long struggle with Sefton to get them to rectify matters and add his name .
Edmund and his Parents used to live at 54 Eastbourne Road Birkdale . he was 21 years when he died .
I have been in touch with the Scarisbrick Town Clerk but nobody knows where his Birth house is , Can anyone assist me on this matter ?
Kind Regards ,
Brendan Ofarrell
brendanofarrell [at] btinternet.com

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[Tina]

Hi Brendan
A warm welcome on behalf of the forum who are probably just getting out of bed
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1911 census has an Edward Aughton aged 16 in the Ormskirk rego area.
Using the freebie, I can't find any other Aughtons he's living with.
Perhaps boarding?
I've found Sarah in 1911 aged 42 with Christopher,Hilda, James & John.
I hope this is your family Brendan.
1901, do you have the census?
Thanks

Tina

[Hilary]

Just to say that when the War Memorial in Southport was built families had to send in the names of people who they wanted put on the memorial. I believe forms were in the local paper.

Do you have the family on the 1891, 1901 or 1911 census? If so and they are in Scarisbrick it may be possible to locate where the house is/was.

Scarisbrick is a very strung out area with a number of different hamlets in it. As the family is RC I would imagine that he was baptised at the RC church in Scarisbrick. The baptismal entry may give further information. Have you this entry?

Having had a quick look at the 1901 census where Sarah is in Ainsdale and then I think she before marriage is in London Street it seems more likely that the family may have had affiliation the the RC churhc in Southport St Marie in the Sands. It might be worth looking in this for baptismal entries to see if there is an address in Scraisbrick. Certainly the family don't seem to have been in residence long in Scarisbrick. Edmund is born there, but brother John is said to be born in Southport, then back to Scarisbrick and then to Ainsdale.

Where were the couple maried?

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[MaryA]

Hello and welcome to the forum.

Battle of Jutland - May 1916? making his birth date end 1894/1895.

Do you or your wife know any more about Edmund's siblings? I have found a possible entry on the 1901 census but the enumerator has noted the name as Edward, not Edmund. You may be able to confirm if it is him by the brothers and sisters.

29 Lancaster Road, Ainsdale
Sarah Aughton Head M 32 Living on her own means Lancashire Southport
Edward son 6 Going to school " Scarisbrick
John son 5 " " Southport
Hilda daur 3 " Scarisbrick
Christopher son 2 " Ainsdale
Visiting - Bessie Turner 11, Ellenor Turner 9 and Elsie Turner 5, all born Liverpool
RG13; Piece: 3532; Folio: 146; Page: 2

It's a shame that there is no mention of this man on either the CWGC site or Ancestry, so I can find no records for his service, possibly the reason for his omission on the Southport Memorial.

Did Sarah's marriage take place in Birkenhead? the only one I find is for Sarah Wadsworth and Charles Joseph Aughton, Q3 1894 Birkenhead 8a 853, (Civil Marriage*) which fits, just, before the birth of Edmund in Q4 1894, in the Ormskirk Registration District, where presumably they settled.

*Civil Marriage could mean that it took place in either a non conformist or RC church or a register office. From what you say about her being buried in the RC Section, I would suspect that it was in an RC Church.

As the marriage took place only a short while before the birth might I suggest that you obtain the certificate to see what information it gives, there might be an address in Scarisbrick for one or the other of them to help pinpoint where the birth took place. This will also give the father's names and occupations as well as a couple of witnesses which might help in identifying Charles in earlier censuses.

In 1911 Charles still isn't at home, nor Edmund/Edward for that matter, but Sarah at 42 has John 15, Hilda 14, Christopher 12 and an additional child James 8, so he must have been home sometime between 1901 and 1911.

16 year old Edmund appears to be living with the Halliwell family somewhere in the Ormskirk registration district, probably working on a farm.

Unfortunately the only Charles I see in any of the censuses - 1901 and 1891 appears to be married to an Elizabeth and the one in 1911 appears to fit this one for age.

[Hilary]

Edmund is on the Commonwealth War Graves Site shown as son of Charles and Sarah Aughton of 54 Eastbourne Road Southport. He was in the Royal Navy. Their records aren't on Ancestry but on Documents online on the National Archives website BUT they don't give a full address for birth place just a town.

I think the marriage certificate would be a good idea and hopefully that way would give an address. I'd also check the local RC registers for a baptism. As well as St Marie's in Southport I'd try St Elizabeth/St Mary's in Scarisbrick.

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[MaryA]

Ed Off, Like your bugbear with the Cheshire site, mine is with the CWGC, I tend to enter the first name instead of initials and the search result comes up blank!! Glad you found him.

I'm wondering if Charles was a mariner also, might explain why he was absent from home so much, again the marriage certificate might enlighten us.

Is Eastbourne Road a big street? as in 1911 there was another Aughton family living there, although not in number 54 - William Henry 33, Francis 32 and William Henry 8 - any relation?

[northmeols]

the aughtons are a big group in southport though not as big as the wrights/rimmers/balls. eastbourne st is a long street with upper middle class houses, mostly single dwelling, a few semi's. not to plug another site but one that has single name extract books avaiable you could try asking the local experts on the northmeols site. they have copies of st maries regs.

http://nmfhssouthport.myfreeforum.org/

http://www.nmfhssouthport.co.uk/index.p ... photos&a=0

S.A.2: Aughton, Haughton £2.50 £0.80 £1.70

S.CH.6: St. Marie on the Sands, R.C. Church. Southport.
Marriages Records
a: Part 1. 24 Jan. 1856 to 10 Apr. 1875. £4.00 £1.00 £1.85
b: Part 2. 10 Aug. 1875 to 8 June 1893 £5.50 £1.15 £2.00
S.CH.7: St. Marie on the Sands, R.C. Church, £8.00 £1.40 £2.25
Southport. Register of Burials
Part 1: 21 Nov. 1855 to 25 Feb. 1867.
Part 2: 26 Nov. 1867 to 17 Jan. 1903.
S.CH.8: St. Marie on the Sands, R.C. Church, £7.00 £1.30 £2.15
Southport. Monumental Inscriptions
S.CH.10: St. Marie on the Sands, R.C. Church,
Southport. Baptismal Registers
a: Part 1. 13 Nov. 1831-14 Dec. 1852 £3.00 £0.85 £1.75
b: Part 2. 27 Feb. 1853-25 Dec. 1859 £3.50 £0.90 £1.80
c: Part 3. 1 Jan. 1860-27 Dec. 1863 £3.00 £0.85 £1.75
d: Part 4. 4 Jan. 1864-23 Dec. 1866 £3.50 £0.90 £1.80
e: Part 5. 6 Jan. 1867-31 Dec. 1871 £3.50 £0.90 £1.80

[Hilary]

Depending on where you live St Marie's registers are on film in Southport library. I might even have a quick look myself if time when up town tomorrow.

For Scarisbrick St Elizabeth I think you would need to contact the parish priest. Just discovered these are also on film at Southport library.

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