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Hi Julia kindly found this passenger record for me:

Name:Mrs. Lockwood
Arrival Date: 15 Jun 1892
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Age:27
Gender:Female
Port of Departure:Liverpool, England; Queenstown, Ireland
Ethnicity/Race-/Nationality: English
Ship Name: Majestic
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 37
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll:M237_591
Page Number: 22

You can now search Ellisisland.org with a ship name so I entered Majestic and the date of arrival 15 June 1892 but I cant find her listed.

Can anyone help please?

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Hi Vic

Cant see her at all under Mrs Lockwood leaving 1892..

Did we check the find my past one out..

LOCKWOOD Teresa 1866 F 1890 Liverpool USA New York if we didn't we should get someone to take a look...



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Hi Victoria,
Is it possible you have the year wrong? I found this on Findmypast:
Searched for female Lockwood, dob 1865 +/-5.
Unfortunately her age is not given but the Manifest Page shows her listed in the 'single - female' 12 years+ column as opposed to a child.

Name: Miss F S LOCKWOOD
Date of departure: 31 May 1893
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA
Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital status: Single
**********: Female
Occupation:
Passenger recorded on: Page 19 of 24 in Manifest

Ship: MAJESTIC
Official Number:
Master's name: H Parsell
Steamship Line:
Where bound: New York, USA
Square feet: 10814
Registered tonnage: 4237
Passengers on voyage: 1087

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Hi Dickiesam

Can you look at the Teresa one....Victoria and i have been on this search for over a year now, Teresa Rebecca Lockwood married name Halsall just disapeared..her hubby is down as married in 1891..NO TERESA TO BE FOUND.. then he remarried 1895 if my memory is right, and claimed he was a widow. Others doing the Lockwood tree are also stumped with Teresa..the only thing we can think of is she either left and went abroad or got with another man and shes under his name..

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Post by Tina »

Hi folks
Ellis Is. have a Mrs Lockwood arr 1894 aged 29yrs bn 1865c
The ship was The New York & it sailed from Southampton.

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Post by 68pages »

Hi Everyone!!

Thought you might all go into hiding if I asked about Teresa again!! :lol:

Iria did find a Mrs Lockwood on the Majestic (15 June 1892) but the one you have Col for 1890 could be a possibility too!

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Post by Tina »

C'mon 68 pages we never run from anyfink :wink:
The Mrs I found is totally wrong.
Did Iria or Julia find the original?
Has anyone in the family mentioned Teresa going to USA after she vanished?
You have my sympathy you really do.
I reckon she stayed put with another bloke.

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Hi Tina

Iria found the original - dont know how she managed to find Mrs Lockwood on the Majestic but she sent me a link to it !

The Lockwood family had two graves at Ford RC cemetery and Teresa and William's baby is buried there but no sign of a death for Teresa so we looked to see if she could have emigrated!

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Teresa Lockwood

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Hi Colette et al,
Your wish is my command........ Is this her? It's the only one with an exact match in all search categories.

Passenger Transcript Details
Name: Teresa LOCKWOOD
Date of departure: 2 August 1890
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA
Date of Birth: 1866 (calculated from age)
Age: 24
Marital status: Single
**********: Female
Occupation: Spst
Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 21

Ship: ETRURIA
Official Number:
Master's name: W H P Hains
Steamship Line:
Where bound: New York, USA
Square feet: 7417
Registered tonnage: 3689
Passengers on voyage: 702

Don't know what the 'Spst' means under 'Occupation/profession'. Most of the young men on the passenger list are shown as 'Mech'. Could be Mechanic? A lot of the young women have the Spst entry.

Hope this find is useful.
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Post by Hilary »

I would take Spst to mean spinster ie unmarried.

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Hi Education Officer,
Would tend to agree about Spinster except that there are quite separate columns for indicating 'Married' or 'Single'. And, this entry is under Occupation, Profession or Calling of passengers?

Dickiesam

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Hi dickiesam
Thanks so much for looking for Teresa! My Teresa was Teresa Rebecca Halsall nee Lockwood born 1864 in Liverpool....she married William Henry Halsall in 1884 and then she disappeared!! :?

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Teresa Halsall (nee Lockwood)

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Hi,
Have you checked out this birth? Same name as her hubby, and, oddly enough, the same year/qtr they married?
Births Dec 1884:
Halsall, William Henry - W. Derby - 8b - 553.

Then there is this: Deaths Jun 1885:
HALSALL, William Henry - 0 - W. Derby - 8b - 388.
In the absence of other possibles this seems to be the same child. Could this have had a bad effect on the parents' relationship? If this child is their's a cert might give you the then current address.

Unfortunately the Findmypast migration passenger records only start in 1890 and I haven't found your Teresa there as Halsall or Lockwood.
Regards,
Dickiesam

PS: Note for the Education Officer! I now believe you are correct in your suggestion that the entry SPST in Occupation/Profession etc of passengers stood for Spinster. While searching this evening I came across several entries of SPIN for Misses in that same column. How quaint to assume that being a spinster was a career or occupation!
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Hey its looking promising

If she was running away from Will Henry.. she may use her own name

We know they lost a daughter, so maybe a son too..Vic and i believe Will Henry was having a fling with his cousin.. who he later marries, and this could be the cause of the marriage not working out threes a crowd and all that.

Theres a couple of kids born before his marriage to Sarah his cousin.

Prob is where to now if she did go to USA she may have married again

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Hi was thinking maybe an incoming passenger record maybe found.. i dont have access.. she may have come back home if its her..or the 1900 census USA..

TWO Theresa's in USA 1900

Theresa Lockwood city, Fergus, Montana date location White relation


Theresa Lockwood name city, Cuyahoga, Ohio date location White relation

Anyone have access ??


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Teresa Rebecca Halsall (nee Lockwood)

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Hi,
68pages mentions a graves in Ford with the remains of Teresa and a baby.
Do we have the dates of the burials and a name for that baby?

And if Teresa had left the country, why go to all the trouble of shipping her remains home for burial? Quite an expense for a working class family.
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Teresa Rebecca Halsall (nee Lockwood)

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Hi,
68pages mentions graves in Ford with the remains of Teresa and a baby.
Do we have the dates of the burials and a name for that baby?

And if Teresa had left the country, why go to all the trouble of shipping her remains home for burial? Quite an expense for a working class family.
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Teresa

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Hi Teresa isn't buried in Ford..her baby daughter is..its a plot her brother bought..his own child is in it too.

This is the problem she just disapears.. her hubby is down as married in 1891 lodging in Toxteth..we have searched all deaths for her and nothing..he says he is a widower when he remarries.

Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
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Halsall William Henry Toxteth Park 8b 411
Kelly Sarah Randale Toxteth Park 8b 411

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Post by MaryA »

Speaking without a moderator's hat on -

I'm VERY skeptical when people say they are widowed yet there is no evidence of a death, I simply believe they have committed bigamy! - there speaks a woman with the same problem.
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Hi Mary - I think that too but one thing that I dont understand is that William and Sarah had two children and she was pregnant with the third before they got round to getting married!

This is the baby of William Halsall and Teresa - Alice Elizabeth Halshall, died at 14 Lancelots L12, age 6months, int 10/4/1889 buried at Ford.

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