BIVRI'S

[colette]

Hi can someone take a look for me, i am trying to find a baptism for a Samuel Astles c1730 Cheshire.. Northwich area.

Regards

[MaryA]

Totally wrong guy
Christening Date: 15 Sep 1826 Recorded in: Nantwich, Cheshire, England
Father: Robert ASTLES
Mother: Ann ASTLES
Source: FHL Film 1836131 Dates: 1821 - 1830

Some mentions of Samuel Astles on my disc.
Wills preserved in the Probate Court, Chester
Astles, Samuel, of Wirswall 1758
Astles, Catherine, of Elton, widow 1713
Astles, Joseph, of Nantwich, joiner and cabinet maker. 03 Jun 1811.
Might give you some clues for relatives, Wirswall is only 25 miles away from Northwich, Nantwich sort of half way between the two and Elton over by Ellesmere Port.

Chester Marriage Bonds 1715-1719
16 Jul Samuel Smith, p. of Coppenhall, co. Chester, yeo. and Jane Astles, p. of Warmingham, co. Chester. Bn: Daniel Astles and Samuel Smith, yeo., both in p. of Coppenhall. Wit: J. Lownds, Joseph Allecock. At Namptwich or Copenhall.
31 Dec John Baddiley of Sandbach, co. Chester, yeo. and Sarah Astles of Elton, co. Chester, spr. Bn: John Baddiley of Sandbach and Richard Baddiley of Malpas, co. Chester, schoolmaster. Wit: Tho. Welles, Grace Welles. At Sandbach

[MaryA]

Sorry there was no trace of Robert's marriage. I tried the Cheshire Parish Register site and it still seems to be down - strange I think it's been offline for at least a week.

[colette]

Hi Mary and thanks

I have Samuel Astles b c 1730 and wife Elizabeth.. ? kids i have are


Mary b 1754 Davenham
Thomas b 1757 Davenham
Elin b 1757 Davenham
George b 1763 Davenham
Mary b 1764 Davenham
Samuel b 1769 Davenham
Elias b 1771 Davenham

Then i follow Elias and wife Alice Berry they married 1790 and one of his witneses was Samuel Astles..

I was really stuck with Samuel's parents so it looks like it could be Robert & Ann..I can't see any other children on IGI for them or a marriage looked in Lancs too amd yes the cheshire parish registers is not working at the moment.
Thing that worries me though is Samuel not having a son named Robert...


cheers

[MaryA]

Yes, it is usual isn't it. Nor do I see any other children for Robert and Ann, even deleted the wife's name in case he married again but still no luck.

There are a few from a later family, you could keep these on file as they are probably related to another branch

Christening Date: 14 Apr 1886 Recorded in: Nantwich, Cheshire, England
Father: Robert ASTLES
Mother: Agnes Ann
Source: FHL Film 1836191

Christening Date: 24 Jun 1890 Recorded in: Nantwich, Cheshire, England
Father: Robert ASTLES
Mother: Agnes Ann
Source: FHL Film 1836191

Christening Date: 24 Aug 1892 Recorded in: Nantwich, Cheshire, England
Father: Robert ASTLES
Mother: Agnes Ann
Source: FHL Film 1836191

[MaryA]

Shoot me! the one I gave is for totally the wrong century! Almost exactly 100 years out.

Sorry no Astles at all in the early 1700's

[colette]

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


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[colette]

Hiya hes got to have come from somewhere.. and with naming first born Thomas.. maybe thats a clue..
They all seem to live in a village called Whatcroft classed as being in Davenham.. thats my only clue.. theres a lady with St Wilfreds burials.. i can see a couple of Astles but no names i know.. i guess they dont have headstones.. or i wonder where else they would get buried in that area back then ?? any ideas.

I'll check the Cheshire PR'S again later and see if they are back on..

xx

[valbenson]

Hi
There is St Helen's Church in Northwich don't know how old it is.
Regards
Val

[colette]

Hi Mary what do you think about this one

Field Name Field Value
KEYCODE DAVNC01300752.30332
PADVER davnC0752.3
PARISH_CODE DAVN
TAGGED 0
DATED 1732/05/18
FORENAME SAMLL
********** M
FATHER_FORENAME DANIEL
MOTHER_FORENAME MARY
SURNAME ASTLES
RESIDENCE WHAT
DATE_OF_BIRTH 1732/04/19

His first daughter was a Mary born 1754

Its guessing though and i hate that

I would like to think this is his burial..

Field Name Field Value
KEYCODE DAVNB02401379.20064
PADVER davnB1379.2
PARISH_CODE DAVN
TAGGED 0
DATED 1822/04/24
FORENAME SAMUEL
SURNAME ASTLE
********** M
RESIDENCE SHIP
AGE 9200


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[MaryA]

It all seems very likely, especially with the age at burial. Really you need a will to try to prove it but I've checked and haven't found one listed.

Picking up on Daniel's name - could this be a possible sister for Samuel?
Chester Marriage Bonds 1715-1719
16 Jul Samuel Smith, p. of Coppenhall, co. Chester, yeo. and Jane Astles, p. of Warmingham, co. Chester. Bn: Daniel Astles and Samuel Smith, yeo., both in p. of Coppenhall. Wit: J. Lownds, Joseph Allecock. At Namptwich or Copenhall

[colette]

hiya seems like it could be too early 1715-1719 Samuel wasnt born till c1730.. so his dad Daniel (if its his dad) would be born around 1700-1710.

Not sure how far Coppenhall is from Davenham..


Think its a lost cause Mary.. and the funny thing is the Astles tree i am doing is for a lad named Stephen a mate of hubbys and his son is called Daniel hes 10years old wouldnt it be nice to start with Daniel and get to Daniel again all these years later

xx

[valbenson]

Hi Colette
Davenham is about 17 miles from Coppenhall
Regards
Val

[MaryA]

My thoughts Val.

OK then still a possible sister for Daniel .... and maybe their father is Daniel too?

Oh I know I'm clutching at straws!