Help finding Bowden family in 1861 census

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Hi I am trying to find Mary Bowden born 1827 in Ireland and also her daugher Mary Bowden born 1854 in Liverpool in the 1861 census and any of the Bowden men....

I have Mother Mary on the 1851 living with:

John Bowden b 1818 Ireland
Mary Bowen b 1827 Ireland
James Bowden b 1847 Liverpool
John Bowden b 1850 Liverpool

and on the 1871 I have:

Mary Bowden b 1829 Ireland
Mary Bowden b 1854 Liverpool
Living at 30 College Lane occ Eating House Keeper.

Can anyone help me please?

Victoria

[CaroleW]

Hi

No Mary jnr

1861 indexed as Bowder 16 Lancelots ?Way

Mary Bowden widow 32 eating house keeper b Dublin
John 11 b Liverpool
Thomas 8 b Liverpool
Margaret Rogers 15 b Dublin - servant
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Hi Carole!!!

What a star you are!!! Thanks so so much!

I have been looking for ages!!! No Mary Jnr though?? She would only have been about 7 years old

V x

[68pages]

Hi

Mary is living next door to her sister Alice Lockwood! Cant believe I didn't see her!!

Victoria

[CaroleW]

Hi

I am a bit dubious about "Mary"

Looking at the 1871 image - she is May - not Mary and I wonder if the enumerator has made an error and assumed she is Bowden

1871

Margaret Chance head 35 married seamans wife b Ireland
Mary Bowden 42 married eating house keeper b Ireland
May (dittoed) Bowden dtr 17 b Liverpool

[CaroleW]

Hi

No - Mary was Bowden as she married Robert Lowe

1881 census - all b Liverpool except Mary snr

Robert Lowe 29
Mary Lowe 27
Mary Ann Lowe 6
Alice Lowe 4
Mary Bowden 55 mother in law b Ireland housekeeper
Joseph Percival 20 visitor
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Hi Carole

This is what is also confusing me??? How did he end up in the USA???

I found this when I googled James C Bowden:

BO WHEN James C, Minneapolis.
Res 395U Portland av, office 633 Se-
curity Bank bldg. Lumberman. Born
Feb 9, 1847 in Liverpool England,
son of John and Mary (Eustace)
Bowden. Married twice: in 1876 to
Susan R Douglas; and in 1890 to
Carrie I Winans. Educated in com-
mon schools Liverpool. Moved to
Rockford 111 1858; served in 65th
111 Inf 1862-65; from 1865-67 farmed
and attended school at Rockford 111;
moved to Wis and engaged in lum-
ber business 1867-87; in lumber
business as pres of Bowden, Murray
Lumber Co St Paul 1887-90; mem-
ber of Fox, Wisdom Lumber Co saw-
mills near Duluth 1890-97; moved
to Minneapolis 1897 and has been
engaged in lumber business to date.
Member Masonic fraternity.

Victoria

[CaroleW]

Hi

John Bowden & Mary Eustace married in Liverpool in March qtr 1846

Is it definitely the same couple on the 1851 census with son James aged 4?

There is no birth for a James C Bowden but there is one for a James Bowden

Reading that report above - it suggests that James was only 11 when he entered the USA and continued his schooling there. My impression is that the family emigrated - not just James

[CaroleW]

It's 2 different James Bowden's and whoever wrote that piece has got their wires crossed

This is the 1880 US census for Wisconsin

Jas. C. BOWDEN 33 b IL Lumberman parents b ENG
Susan R. BOWDEN 27 b WI Keeping House parents b ME
Clyde BOWDEN Son 3 b WI ME WI
Wm. DOUGLASS FatherL W 70 b ME Lumberman father b SCO mother b ENG

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Thanks Carole

That really confused me!!

Just wonder where James born 1847 and Mary born 1854 where in the 1861 census????


V x

[CaroleW]

Hi

Mary is a mystery - always assuming that they are the right Bowden family

2 possible deaths for James

Deaths Dec 1853

Bowden James West Derby 8b 2_1

Deaths Mar 1861

Bowden James West Derby 8b 275

or this 1871 entry for Runcorn

James Bowden 23 b Liverpool
Mary 24 b Northwich
Eliza A 3 months b Runcorn
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