Help Please tracing a Mr Stoward, London Road - 1865

[mayanbilly]

hi all, Can anyone trace this for me,I am trying to find out about a

Mr Stoward,212 London road Liverpool 1865,

What was it a shop,a works etc.

my great great grandfather worked there in 1865..thank you..

mayanbilly

[doreen]

Hi Mayanbilly,

The 1860 Gore's Directory, 212 London Rd, Denton and Stoward Plumbers . Looking at the other numbers listed they all appear to be Shops and Pubs .

Also there was a John Stoward Painter & Plumber (Denton&S) 111 Prescot St .

If he is your man then it looks as if he was a Partner in the business .

Hope this helps
Doreen

[Tina]

Hi Mayandbilly

Probably of no help at all, perhaps worth keeping for later, unusual surname
1853 Directory
John Stoward painter, gilder & glazier
7 Moor Place

Good luck

Tina

[doreen]

Found the other Partner in the 1860 Gore's.

James Denton, Painter, (D and Stoward ) 30 Brownlow St .
Denton & Stoward & Co, 212 London Rd .

With Tina's find it looks as though the Partnership started sometime after
1853 .

Cheers .
Doreen

[Tina]

Thanks Doreen.

1853 Directory
James Denton painter,plumber & glazier
40 Seymour St
shop 44a Gilbert St.

Tina

[doreen]

Hi Tina, the directories are proving to be handy .

Found some background info on John Stoward for Mayandbilly .
Marriage 1858 March Qtr
John Stoward - Hannah Duncan .
West Derby 8b 422,
On Lanc's BMD name wrongly transcribed as John Steward , Curch, Everton St Peters .

They had a Son 1859 Sep Qtr John Duncan Stoward, sadly his wife Hannah died 1859 Sep Qtr .

1861 Census 111 Prescot St .
Name wrongly transcribed as Howard - notice to Ancestry .
Sarah Stoward Head Wid 79 Retired,
John .. son Widower 39 Painter and Plumber
Mary Sinclair daur Widow 40
Robert .. g/son 14
Sarah ... g/daur 10
Emma ... g/daur 10 .
All born Liverpool .
RG9: Piece: 2728; Folio:54; Page:20

On the 1851 at 7 Moor Place
John 29 Master Painter ( Employing 4 men)
Living with his father John 61 Proprioter of Houses, mother Sarah 69 also sister Mary sinclair 30 and her 4 Month twins Sarah and Emma . Son Robert Sinclair could be with his his father .
Ho107 Piece: 2183; Folio:39; Page: 14 .

Mayandbilly don't know if you have access to the census, should you need census info for James Denton let us know .

Doreen

[MaryA]

Would anybody with an earlier directory be able to check if it would be the same John Stoward - living in 31 Copperas Hill around 10th March, 1843 when "A Daring House Robbery" took place. Seems like he had a few bob too.

I'm on my way out in a minute Mayanbilly, but send me a pm with your email address and when I come back this afternoon/evening I'll send you the details I find.

There are a few other mentions of a John Stoward living at Moor Place, even after his death in 1851 there is another living at the same address. With an unusual name like that, maybe these are connected - Yes I think they may be father and son ...

Liverpool Mercury, 3 March, 1856
THE CORPORATION SALE - In our Friday's paper the name of the purchaser of the property in Brownlow Hill was given as Stoward; it should have been Mr John Stoward, painter and glazier of Moor Place.

Not got enough time at the moment, I'll look again later for more.

[doreen]

Hi Mary, the family are living in Copperas Hill in 1841.

Jno Stoward 51 Painter
Sarah 55
Mary 20
John 18 .
HO107 Piece: 558; Folio:13; Page: 18 .

Doreen

[MaryA]

Liverpool Mercury Friday 1 May, 1857
On sale that eligible property forming the north side of Falkner Square and corner of Sandonm Street, containing drawing, dining and breakfast rooms, six bedrooms and two servants' rooms, with hot, cold and shower baths and all other conveniences - Apply to Mr John Stoward, painter &c., 7 Moor Place, near the King's Monument.

Seems this family, both John and his father John would haved had a few bob. Probably worth searching for a will for his father who died in 1851.

[MaryA]

Liverpool Mercury Friday 12 February, 1858
Marriages
Feb 10, at St Peter's Everton, by the Rev S B Sutton, Mr John Stoward to Hannah, daughter of the late Captain James Duncan.

[MaryA]

Get this one, he has fingers in more pies than originally thought.

Liverpool Mercury, Friday 1 August, 1862
TIMES PERMANENT BENEFIT BUILDING SOCIETY
Shares £10 each. Entrance fee 1s. per share. Half and quarter shares in proportion.
TRUSTEES
Mr James Underhill, 28 South Castle Street
Mr William Whitby, 27 Dale Street
Mr James Denton, 30 Brownlow Street
Mr Samuel Storer, 29 & 31 Temple Court
Mr Benjamin Godber, 12 South Castle Street
SOLICITORS
Mr James R Steventon, 28 South Castle Street
The SECOND MEETING for payment of subscriptions and Allotting Shares will be held on Wednesday, the 13th of August at seven o'clock, at the Secretary's Offices, 38 St Anne Street. A SALE OF SHARES will take place at eight o'clock.
Twelve Scales of Repayments, from five to 25 years, at fixed premiums.
For further particulars apply to the Chairman, Mr John Stoward, 212 London Road; or to the Secretary J O CARVER, 38 St Anne Street.

Skipping on a bit further, I notice in some of these notices that he became PRESIDENT sometime before May 1863.

Although all this must be interesting, there is far too much to post on here, there are properties to let and other stuff. I think Mayanbilly needs to get access to the Old Newspapers, if you don't have a library card that allows you to search these, then please let us know as we can advise on that.

[MaryA]

He and his wife appeared to be quite charitable, he donated £2 2s and Mrs Stoward £1 1s to the Indian Famine Fund in 1877.

and then this will help to find his grave.
Liverpool Mercury Monday, June 20, 1881.
DEATHS
STOWARD June 17 at his residence, 72 Park Road West, Claughton, aged 60 John Stoward, of Liverpool. The interment will take place at Flaybrick Hill Cemetery tomorrow (Tuesday) morning at eleven o'clock (no cards).

I don't find any entries for Hannah Stoward, had hoped to find a death entry for her too.

[doreen]

Sad, Hannah may have died in child birth, death 1858 Sep Qtr the same Qtr her son John Duncan Stoward was born .

John Stoward 49 on the 1771 is still unmarried and living at 4 Pembrooke Place .
John Duncan son 11, twin nieces Sarah and Emma Sinclair 20 .
RG 10 Piece:3780; Folio: 94 Page:13 .

Living at 72 Park Rd West, Claughton . on the 1881 .
He has a wife, Janet Stoward age 50 born Liverpool
RG11 Piece: 3588; Folio: 119; Page; 16 .

Haven't found the marriage between 1871 -1881, one way other the other, looks as though Janet has fallen on her feet, didn't she do well

Doreen

[MaryA]

Just bumping this up a bit in case Mayanbilly didn't see it.

[mayanbilly]

,Hi Marya and Doreen,Thanks for all that info on this subject,I hadn`t seen them till tonight so this is the first time I had to thank you both,what you found Is most interesting,my great grandfather who worked for Stoward was Harriman Burns,the same Harriman who killed his wife while under the influence of the demon drink,I posted this sometime last year,he died in Broadmoor on 27/6/1878.his wife,my grandmother was Eliza Burns,The full trial report was reported in the Times and the Liverpool Mercury.Tragic and sad but fortunately for me life went on..thanks again mayanbilly No 7226.