Hi,I have tried with no luck to find something about T.E.L. my mums Da and my Grandfather if anyone has come across about him it would be much appreciated.Hewas born 4th August 1884 to Thomas and Elizabeth (nee Nettleton) Lunt at 300,Westminster Road, Kirkdale,West Derby,
Liverpool.He married my GranAlice Rothwell Lawson 22years ol 11 Crossfield Road,West Derby 2nd November 1912.He was 28 years old.
My Mum was born 4th January 1913 at 11 Crossfield Road,West Derby.On both certificates he is listed as Marine Engineer.
In the 1901 Census he was a guest of the King in Walton Jail.17 years old
News Vendor of own account.Don't know what he was in the jug for.
He must have been at sea early in the war when his ship was sunk.He was in and open boat for quite a while.When rescued he had to have both legs below the knees amputated.Mums oldest brother wasn't born till 1917.
Allowing forr his wounds to heel and gran's preganancy.The ship would have been sunk before mid 1915.As a lad I can remeber quite a big newspaper article about him,and him being a bit of a hero.Something about being in South Africa when Rescued.He became an alcoholic as time and more family arrived.He seemed to have had some kind of big payout.As at one stage Gran, Grandad,Mum and all her brothers and sisters lived in Seabank Road Wallasey and had servants.Then things started to go down hill.They all came to live with My Mum and Dad, and my Dads,Mum and Dad,after I was born July 1932 and Dads Mum died Nov 1932.By the beginning of WW2 thet had all arrive.His wife Alice died mid 30's???.Nobody would talk about him but thats another story.Hope some one might help. Thank You All.Best Regards Ken B
Thomas Edward Lunt Engineer Merchant Navy
As you seem to have discovered quite a bit about Thomas born 1884, I'm assuming that you are interested in in other family members and researching further backwards.
It's a little difficult to know very much about his father as it seems he's absent on the 1891 and 1901 censuses, which I'll give details of further down in case you don't have them. Do you have Thomas and Elizabeth's marriage certificate? This should give his age and occupation - I'm thinking maybe a seaman since he's away both times and also because of Dorothy's birthplace - and also his father's name so hopefully help find him as a child with his family.
Thomas Lunt married Elizabeth Nettleton Q2 1884 8b 926 West Derby - Register Office or Registrar Attended so it might have been a Catholic Church.
I believe these are the entries, but if you know differently please let us know.
1891
102 Moore Street, Bootle, Lancashire
Elizabeth Lunt Wife M 25 Kirkdale Lancashire
Thomas E son 6 " "
Annie E daur 5 Walton Lancashire
Emma L daur 1 Bootle "
RG12; Piece: 2974; Folio 6; Page 8
1901
54 Long Lane, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire
Elizabeth Lunt Wife M 35 Liverpool Lancashire
Emma L daur 11 " "
Frances R daur 7 " "
Dorothy daur 5 Southampton Hampshire
Elsia B daur 1 Liverpool Lancashire
RG13; Piece: 3451; Folio: 84; Page: 36
A possible for Annie in 1901 is at 4 Ridgeway Street, Edge Hill, West Derby, a 14 year old domestic servant, born Liverpool, in the household of Robert J Elliott, a 40 year old Corporation Labourer, wife Mary A (58 born Staffordshire Wolverhampton), Frances Doyle 35 year old stepson, a railway shunter and Robert Elliott, 19 year old son, safe painter, all born Liverpool.
RG13; Piece: 3490; Folio: 176; Page: 40
It's a little difficult to know very much about his father as it seems he's absent on the 1891 and 1901 censuses, which I'll give details of further down in case you don't have them. Do you have Thomas and Elizabeth's marriage certificate? This should give his age and occupation - I'm thinking maybe a seaman since he's away both times and also because of Dorothy's birthplace - and also his father's name so hopefully help find him as a child with his family.
Thomas Lunt married Elizabeth Nettleton Q2 1884 8b 926 West Derby - Register Office or Registrar Attended so it might have been a Catholic Church.
I believe these are the entries, but if you know differently please let us know.
1891
102 Moore Street, Bootle, Lancashire
Elizabeth Lunt Wife M 25 Kirkdale Lancashire
Thomas E son 6 " "
Annie E daur 5 Walton Lancashire
Emma L daur 1 Bootle "
RG12; Piece: 2974; Folio 6; Page 8
1901
54 Long Lane, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire
Elizabeth Lunt Wife M 35 Liverpool Lancashire
Emma L daur 11 " "
Frances R daur 7 " "
Dorothy daur 5 Southampton Hampshire
Elsia B daur 1 Liverpool Lancashire
RG13; Piece: 3451; Folio: 84; Page: 36
A possible for Annie in 1901 is at 4 Ridgeway Street, Edge Hill, West Derby, a 14 year old domestic servant, born Liverpool, in the household of Robert J Elliott, a 40 year old Corporation Labourer, wife Mary A (58 born Staffordshire Wolverhampton), Frances Doyle 35 year old stepson, a railway shunter and Robert Elliott, 19 year old son, safe painter, all born Liverpool.
RG13; Piece: 3490; Folio: 176; Page: 40
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G'Day Ken from across the ditch.
Here's a chuckle for you.
1901 they have Elz spouse of Charles McLachlan and also as the father of the kiddies
Have sent error to Anc.UK, he was living next door, single, busy baking his bread.
Tina
Here's a chuckle for you.
1901 they have Elz spouse of Charles McLachlan and also as the father of the kiddies
Have sent error to Anc.UK, he was living next door, single, busy baking his bread.
Tina
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Hi Ken from another Lunt,
I have been researching my Lunts,again West Derby/Everton.
Have had so much help from these guys I cannot keep up!!!!!!!!!!
If this forum can help ,my goodness they will.so good luck
Adios from Spain
Elsa-Mary
I have been researching my Lunts,again West Derby/Everton.
Have had so much help from these guys I cannot keep up!!!!!!!!!!
If this forum can help ,my goodness they will.so good luck
Adios from Spain
Elsa-Mary
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Thomas Edward Lunt Chief Engineer
Hi You Lovely Lady's MaryA,Tina Morana and Elsa Mary,It is Loverly for you to help so Quickly.It is a real problem about "Lunty" as he was called.
I am trying to find out what happened to him Between My Mum's Birth and her oldest Brothers Birth Uncle Gordon in 1917.He was a Chief Engineer and was Mined or Torpedoed.He must have been or was in an open Lifeboat for quite a while,When rescued he had both his legs below the knees amputated due to gangerene.There was a big newspaper cutting my dads had.He was Captain Alfred Edward Berry (Pa) on the Bramley Moore tug for the Alexander Towing Co.Can't find to much about him either as all the records of the Alexander Towing Co. were lost in the Blitz.The cutting Pa had made "Lunty" to be a bit of a hero.Unfortunately as time went by he became an Alcoholic.He seemed to have been granted some kind of Gratuity.Which ended up going down the Toilet.During the 20's the family were living in 3,Seabank Road in Wallasey.I visited it in 1992 and obviously was a Pretty Up Market house of the 1920's.My Mum told me that one of her jobs was to inspect the Silver on a Tuesday after it had been Polished.He was a heavy drinker and a times became quite nasty.The money started to dwindle and They were living in Crossfield
Poad West Derby,then Durning Road,Edge Hill,7 or maybe 27,Vanburgh Crescent Mere Lane ???,Then 32,Scarsdale Road,Norris Green.My Gran his wife Alice Rothwell Lunt (nee Lawson) died I think in 1935.That was when they started to move To 51,Hornsey Road Anfield.I have lots of memories of him especially his Sticks belting me after a few days of staying in his anderson shelter and he started back on the Bottle.Mum and I were of like shots as was her youngest Brother Cyril.Then years later when I played in the Liverpool "B","A" and Reserves 4 games.He would arrive at games in Fletwood,Clitheroe,Wigan etc don't know how he got there.Always came up to me after the game and would tell me how I'd played and always departing words were'Bit short this week Lad could you lend me a couple of bob.Started I'd get I think it was 7/6pencein the "B" team,15/-Shillings the "A" team sohe got 5 Bob.the 4 games I playe in the reserves I think I got 2 pound so he got 1 pound.Then I had to go to Scotland to finish my Apprenticeship.Anyway thats some of the Story.Mum her brothers and sisters would have nothing to do with him.He died 1955 I had just got home after my first trip at Sea,and I think he had died the Previous week.Thank You for Your Help I am trying all kinds of places but NZ makes it a bit difficult Best Regards Ken Big Hug for You Lady's Thank You.
I am trying to find out what happened to him Between My Mum's Birth and her oldest Brothers Birth Uncle Gordon in 1917.He was a Chief Engineer and was Mined or Torpedoed.He must have been or was in an open Lifeboat for quite a while,When rescued he had both his legs below the knees amputated due to gangerene.There was a big newspaper cutting my dads had.He was Captain Alfred Edward Berry (Pa) on the Bramley Moore tug for the Alexander Towing Co.Can't find to much about him either as all the records of the Alexander Towing Co. were lost in the Blitz.The cutting Pa had made "Lunty" to be a bit of a hero.Unfortunately as time went by he became an Alcoholic.He seemed to have been granted some kind of Gratuity.Which ended up going down the Toilet.During the 20's the family were living in 3,Seabank Road in Wallasey.I visited it in 1992 and obviously was a Pretty Up Market house of the 1920's.My Mum told me that one of her jobs was to inspect the Silver on a Tuesday after it had been Polished.He was a heavy drinker and a times became quite nasty.The money started to dwindle and They were living in Crossfield
Poad West Derby,then Durning Road,Edge Hill,7 or maybe 27,Vanburgh Crescent Mere Lane ???,Then 32,Scarsdale Road,Norris Green.My Gran his wife Alice Rothwell Lunt (nee Lawson) died I think in 1935.That was when they started to move To 51,Hornsey Road Anfield.I have lots of memories of him especially his Sticks belting me after a few days of staying in his anderson shelter and he started back on the Bottle.Mum and I were of like shots as was her youngest Brother Cyril.Then years later when I played in the Liverpool "B","A" and Reserves 4 games.He would arrive at games in Fletwood,Clitheroe,Wigan etc don't know how he got there.Always came up to me after the game and would tell me how I'd played and always departing words were'Bit short this week Lad could you lend me a couple of bob.Started I'd get I think it was 7/6pencein the "B" team,15/-Shillings the "A" team sohe got 5 Bob.the 4 games I playe in the reserves I think I got 2 pound so he got 1 pound.Then I had to go to Scotland to finish my Apprenticeship.Anyway thats some of the Story.Mum her brothers and sisters would have nothing to do with him.He died 1955 I had just got home after my first trip at Sea,and I think he had died the Previous week.Thank You for Your Help I am trying all kinds of places but NZ makes it a bit difficult Best Regards Ken Big Hug for You Lady's Thank You.
Hi again Ken,
Just to summarise it seems he went to sea about 1913 and returned injured in 1917 and that's the time you are interested in.
I think it's possible to get some of the service records but I think you need to start with the newspaper cutting - does it say which navy he was in, the merchant or the royal navy, then maybe somebody might be able to point you in the direction to find the records.
Just to summarise it seems he went to sea about 1913 and returned injured in 1917 and that's the time you are interested in.
I think it's possible to get some of the service records but I think you need to start with the newspaper cutting - does it say which navy he was in, the merchant or the royal navy, then maybe somebody might be able to point you in the direction to find the records.
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Hi Ken
Just to add
Gordon's birth 1917 is listed as
Albert G Lunt mother Lawson
jan/mar qtr 1917 West Derby.
This may help with time frame.
birth of Alice Rothwell Lawson
1890 oct-dec qtr West Derby.
Tina
Just to add
Gordon's birth 1917 is listed as
Albert G Lunt mother Lawson
jan/mar qtr 1917 West Derby.
This may help with time frame.
birth of Alice Rothwell Lawson
1890 oct-dec qtr West Derby.
Tina
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I'm confused
Where does Captn Alfred Edwd Berry fit into tree
Tks
Tina
I'm confused
Where does Captn Alfred Edwd Berry fit into tree
Tks
Tina
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I'm getting confused too, but think that Alfred Edward Berry is Ken's dad and Thomas Edward Lunt is his mum's dad.
Is that right Ken?
Is that right Ken?
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There's a Thomas Edward Lunt listed on the National Archives Documents Online Royal Naval Seaman
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline
It costs £3.50 to down load the record. It gives a date of birth, place of birth and lists the ships served on. That might get you the name of the ship.
The Thomas Edward Lunt I found enlisted 1899. However place of birth is given as Prescot so may not be yours mind you he may have said the wrong thing. Anyhow there are 3 pages of Lunts listed when I searched so it might be worth looking to see if he is there.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline
It costs £3.50 to down load the record. It gives a date of birth, place of birth and lists the ships served on. That might get you the name of the ship.
The Thomas Edward Lunt I found enlisted 1899. However place of birth is given as Prescot so may not be yours mind you he may have said the wrong thing. Anyhow there are 3 pages of Lunts listed when I searched so it might be worth looking to see if he is there.
Thanks Mary for sorting that out for me.
1932 Alfred E Berry married Eileen Lunt.
Anfield St Columba.
Tina
1932 Alfred E Berry married Eileen Lunt.
Anfield St Columba.
Tina
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Les Girls.MaryA,Tina Morana,Elsa Mary and Tilly.
Hi Ladys sorry I didn;t make things very clear.Capt.Alfred Edward Berry was my Dads,Dad he was called Pa,1897 when he married a Minnie Hendry he was a Dock Gateman.Her previous husband was also a Dock Gateman and he died HenryJohn Hendry.Minnie and Henry both came from the Shetlands and had married Oct,Nov,Dec 1889.They had two sons John W,born 1890 and Thomas Hendrywas born11th November 1891.H.J.H. died July August Sept 1896.My Grandad married Minnie
(Willeamina)October the 18th 1897.He was still a Dock Gateman.My Dad was born 27th February 1905.Living in 44 Hero St,Bootle.Pa at this stage was A Freight Clerk and would have been 38 years old.In the 1901 census
The Household is listed as :- Alfred E Berry 32yrs,Head. Florence Berry 2 yrs Daughter, John W. Berry 11yrs,Son (Hendry) Minnie Berry 36yrs, Wife. Minnie Berry 4yrs, Daughter Thomas Berry 9yrs Son (Hendry). Isobella Martin 20yrs Visito Birmingham,
John W. and Thomas were Henry John Hendry sons and maybe Minnie at 4yrs could have been his Daughter.My Dad didn't arrive till 1905.My Dad Spoke of Thomas Hendry as Such but not as Berry.Thomas died of wounds in World War 1, 11th April 1918. at Rouen.He was in the 2nd Battalion Scots Guards.
What I am really trying to find out how come my Grandad Pa,Alfred Edward Berry,became Captain on the Alexander Towing Co. Tug the
"Bramley Moore" Before Durig and just after WW2 as he was 75yrs old.He died in October 1955 aged 85yrs.He could have been in the Royal Navy as I remember him once talking about Mine sweeping off the Irish Coast.
Maybe he was in the Merchant Navy
In a way He was My Good Grandad as My Mum, Dad and Me (7/7/32) moved into 51 Hornsey Road Anfield.With Pa and Minnie a few days after I was Born.My Mum told me how Minnie used to take me out all the Time and Sing all the Shetland songs to me as a babe,nurse me and talk with a beautiful Scottish Broque Accent.Unfortunately she died 5th November 1932.I have a couple of very precious photos of her that the Shetland MuseuM have asked for copies of.I say good Grandad because when my7 Mums brothers and sisters started to move in,because of Thomaas Edward Lunt being an Alchoholic and getting abusive and his wife Alice Died in 1935,he welcomed them all in and I can honestly say I never heard him swear or argue with any of them.Seems funny when his nickname on the "B M" as Stiffy.Lunty was good to at times and had a terrible experience he was definetly Merchant Navy born 4th August 1884.
My Mum was almost 7 months Premature (hospitals must have been good) Naughty Joke)when Lunty Married Alice which makes me think he was at sea.It was a Liverpool Shippimg co he was withThe Majority said Furnaess Withy but some said some otherThank You Ladies for your Help Best regards and another Huge Hug,its Ok My wife has given me permission and I hope your Husbands Don't Mind.Ken B
(Willeamina)October the 18th 1897.He was still a Dock Gateman.My Dad was born 27th February 1905.Living in 44 Hero St,Bootle.Pa at this stage was A Freight Clerk and would have been 38 years old.In the 1901 census
The Household is listed as :- Alfred E Berry 32yrs,Head. Florence Berry 2 yrs Daughter, John W. Berry 11yrs,Son (Hendry) Minnie Berry 36yrs, Wife. Minnie Berry 4yrs, Daughter Thomas Berry 9yrs Son (Hendry). Isobella Martin 20yrs Visito Birmingham,
John W. and Thomas were Henry John Hendry sons and maybe Minnie at 4yrs could have been his Daughter.My Dad didn't arrive till 1905.My Dad Spoke of Thomas Hendry as Such but not as Berry.Thomas died of wounds in World War 1, 11th April 1918. at Rouen.He was in the 2nd Battalion Scots Guards.
What I am really trying to find out how come my Grandad Pa,Alfred Edward Berry,became Captain on the Alexander Towing Co. Tug the
"Bramley Moore" Before Durig and just after WW2 as he was 75yrs old.He died in October 1955 aged 85yrs.He could have been in the Royal Navy as I remember him once talking about Mine sweeping off the Irish Coast.
Maybe he was in the Merchant Navy
In a way He was My Good Grandad as My Mum, Dad and Me (7/7/32) moved into 51 Hornsey Road Anfield.With Pa and Minnie a few days after I was Born.My Mum told me how Minnie used to take me out all the Time and Sing all the Shetland songs to me as a babe,nurse me and talk with a beautiful Scottish Broque Accent.Unfortunately she died 5th November 1932.I have a couple of very precious photos of her that the Shetland MuseuM have asked for copies of.I say good Grandad because when my7 Mums brothers and sisters started to move in,because of Thomaas Edward Lunt being an Alchoholic and getting abusive and his wife Alice Died in 1935,he welcomed them all in and I can honestly say I never heard him swear or argue with any of them.Seems funny when his nickname on the "B M" as Stiffy.Lunty was good to at times and had a terrible experience he was definetly Merchant Navy born 4th August 1884.
My Mum was almost 7 months Premature (hospitals must have been good) Naughty Joke)when Lunty Married Alice which makes me think he was at sea.It was a Liverpool Shippimg co he was withThe Majority said Furnaess Withy but some said some otherThank You Ladies for your Help Best regards and another Huge Hug,its Ok My wife has given me permission and I hope your Husbands Don't Mind.Ken B
Thank you for my hug Ken, my OH doesn't mind in the least so long as it's over the internet!!
1938 51 Hornsey Rd Anfield
Alfd. Edwd. Berry tugboat master.
Just to confirm what you already know!
Good luck
Tina
1938 51 Hornsey Rd Anfield
Alfd. Edwd. Berry tugboat master.
Just to confirm what you already know!
Good luck
Tina
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Thomas Edward Lunt
Hi MaryA, Tina Morana,Elsa Mary and Tilly,Have just been looking at Thomas Edward Lunt,his Mum and Dads Marriage Certificate. 15th June 1884.at Balliol Road Wesleyian Chapel West DerbyThomas Lunt 21 Years Batchelor,Jeweller,80 Delamore Street,Kirkdale. Father Thomas Lunt Book Keeper.
Elizabeth Nettleton, 20 years, Spinster, no occupation, 16 Chickdale Road,Kirkdale. Father James Nettleton (deceased) Stonemason.Right on the button MaryA.Thank You teach me to read things in more detail.Thats why he couldn't make the 2 censuses .Actually one of the witnesses is a William Thomas Palfrey??aw unusual name.Thanks once again.
Digressing My wife is a New Zealander all mourning the All Blacks.Her maiden name is Greer and her family left Liverpool for London to sail to NZ 1851.Of Course Rita wasn't born (sic joke) her 2 first cousin have done her family tree.They were MacGregors of course and the have the line back to 834.Her Dad and his brother 12 years differencein age are both buried in the Uk.Dad at Dunure near Turnberry,a torpedo bomber crash and Ashley was a Spitfire Pilot the last 2 years of the war couldn't give up his flying on being demobbed in NZ,So after a year or two applied for his Commission back in the RAF was accepted went back and was killed in an Air collisionat Salisbury.He is buried at Old Sarum.Sorry for rambling on.Once again Thank You.Ken B
Elizabeth Nettleton, 20 years, Spinster, no occupation, 16 Chickdale Road,Kirkdale. Father James Nettleton (deceased) Stonemason.Right on the button MaryA.Thank You teach me to read things in more detail.Thats why he couldn't make the 2 censuses .Actually one of the witnesses is a William Thomas Palfrey??aw unusual name.Thanks once again.
Digressing My wife is a New Zealander all mourning the All Blacks.Her maiden name is Greer and her family left Liverpool for London to sail to NZ 1851.Of Course Rita wasn't born (sic joke) her 2 first cousin have done her family tree.They were MacGregors of course and the have the line back to 834.Her Dad and his brother 12 years differencein age are both buried in the Uk.Dad at Dunure near Turnberry,a torpedo bomber crash and Ashley was a Spitfire Pilot the last 2 years of the war couldn't give up his flying on being demobbed in NZ,So after a year or two applied for his Commission back in the RAF was accepted went back and was killed in an Air collisionat Salisbury.He is buried at Old Sarum.Sorry for rambling on.Once again Thank You.Ken B
Thanks for the hug Ken, and enjoying your tales.
It's a small world, I lived in Kirkdale at two different points in my life, during one of them I worked as a barmaid in the Tramways on the corner of Delamore Street.
Taking a guess, I would say that the surname of the witness would be Palfreyman, can't quite decide whether the sailmaker living in Union Street, Liverpool with his wife Priscilla (nee Bateman and possible previous marriage to ? Ramsay) mother in law, couple of children and a visitor Edward Gluthwaite would be likely, but bear these in mind in case you ever come across these names.
The address for Elizabeth would be Chirkdale rather than Chickdale, obviously somebody's handwriting.
It's a small world, I lived in Kirkdale at two different points in my life, during one of them I worked as a barmaid in the Tramways on the corner of Delamore Street.
Taking a guess, I would say that the surname of the witness would be Palfreyman, can't quite decide whether the sailmaker living in Union Street, Liverpool with his wife Priscilla (nee Bateman and possible previous marriage to ? Ramsay) mother in law, couple of children and a visitor Edward Gluthwaite would be likely, but bear these in mind in case you ever come across these names.
The address for Elizabeth would be Chirkdale rather than Chickdale, obviously somebody's handwriting.
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Hi Ken & crew
1871 Guesswork...
young Thos is 6yrs old lodging with Hughes family in Kirkdale.
His Dad Thos snr widr is a prison warder in Kirkdale County Jail.
I wish I had music notes on my keyboard..
"Warden threw a party in the County Jail...let's rock"
1881 37 Furness St Kirkdale
looks like Thos snr has a new wife
Thos snr provision porter 48 bn Lpl
Emma 33 b Whitchurch Shrops
Thos jr 16 jeweller's app
Tina
poss marr Thos snr to Emma Rogers 1873 St Peter's.
1871 Guesswork...
young Thos is 6yrs old lodging with Hughes family in Kirkdale.
His Dad Thos snr widr is a prison warder in Kirkdale County Jail.
I wish I had music notes on my keyboard..
"Warden threw a party in the County Jail...let's rock"
1881 37 Furness St Kirkdale
looks like Thos snr has a new wife
Thos snr provision porter 48 bn Lpl
Emma 33 b Whitchurch Shrops
Thos jr 16 jeweller's app
Tina
poss marr Thos snr to Emma Rogers 1873 St Peter's.
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Hi again Ken,
1891 W Dby Union Workhouse
Thomas Lunt 54 Officer (porter) bn Lpool
Emma 43 bn Shrops wife of Officer (portress)
Tina
1891 W Dby Union Workhouse
Thomas Lunt 54 Officer (porter) bn Lpool
Emma 43 bn Shrops wife of Officer (portress)
Tina
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Berry??????????????????
Hi Ken,
Just a strange thing,it only occured to me recently, have yiu ant relations in OZ, as I just remembered,my brothers wife is a Berry,related to Roger Casement.
Would be really weird if there is connection
Elsa-Mary
Just a strange thing,it only occured to me recently, have yiu ant relations in OZ, as I just remembered,my brothers wife is a Berry,related to Roger Casement.
Would be really weird if there is connection
Elsa-Mary
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ken berry
Berry OZ
Hi Elsa Mary,Did have an Aunt Marjorie and her Hubby Nobby Davis.She was a younger sister of my Mum their Maiden name being Lunt.There is a Henry Berry and his wife Pat living in Woolagong.They are regulars on the Echoes Ex- Pats Forum.Good little site about the Locarno.
Aunty M unfortunately was married previously to Ken Buck in Kings Regiment and he ended up in the Chindits behind Jap lines,while Aunty M had an affair with Nobby.My Mum had the job of going to me Uncle Ken and telling Aunt M had taken off.When I first went to sea on my second trip I rmembered were he had lived with his mother Essendine Mansions,By Lords Cricket ground.He was living there by himself and I just missed him as we sailed the following day.He went all the way up to Liverpool and saw my Mum and was a very lonely man and stiil was Hoping Aunt M would come back.Hows that for first Love.I know she tried to get in touch with him late 90's to no avail.She Died ina home in the Wiial afew years later.I'm rambling on again.forgive me.Have you any Berry family in NZ.Best Regards Ken B
Aunty M unfortunately was married previously to Ken Buck in Kings Regiment and he ended up in the Chindits behind Jap lines,while Aunty M had an affair with Nobby.My Mum had the job of going to me Uncle Ken and telling Aunt M had taken off.When I first went to sea on my second trip I rmembered were he had lived with his mother Essendine Mansions,By Lords Cricket ground.He was living there by himself and I just missed him as we sailed the following day.He went all the way up to Liverpool and saw my Mum and was a very lonely man and stiil was Hoping Aunt M would come back.Hows that for first Love.I know she tried to get in touch with him late 90's to no avail.She Died ina home in the Wiial afew years later.I'm rambling on again.forgive me.Have you any Berry family in NZ.Best Regards Ken B
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Elsa-Mary
Marjorie Lunt
Hi,
Well I do have a Marjorie Lunt in my family,she would have been born some time in 1890's,sorry I will have to ask for a look up to get date as due to moving,have mislaid the details.
Do you hazzard a guess as to when your Marjorie was born,if near enough, I GUESS THESE GREAT GUYS!!! and they are ,will do look up for 1891 for John Lunt,with son JAMES PETER,THERE IS ALSO AN ELSIE AND OTHER SIBLINGS.
Like I said,you never know,who you maybe related to.
Just wondered about Berry Family,as my Berry was present at re-interment of Sir Roger Casement.
So busy here in Spain,what with weather playingsilly b*****S.
Global whatever
To all of you
Vaya con Dios
Elsa-Mary
Well I do have a Marjorie Lunt in my family,she would have been born some time in 1890's,sorry I will have to ask for a look up to get date as due to moving,have mislaid the details.
Do you hazzard a guess as to when your Marjorie was born,if near enough, I GUESS THESE GREAT GUYS!!!
and they are ,will do look up for 1891 for John Lunt,with son JAMES PETER,THERE IS ALSO AN ELSIE AND OTHER SIBLINGS.Like I said,you never know,who you maybe related to.
Just wondered about Berry Family,as my Berry was present at re-interment of Sir Roger Casement.
So busy here in Spain,what with weather playingsilly b*****S.
Global whatever
To all of you
Vaya con Dios
Elsa-Mary