The elusive LENNON family

[tonyhennessey1]

Hi Colette
you have opened up a whole new world for me with this searching through streets business . I've gone into Burlington St. at random and am finding it very difficult to read some of the names on most of the pages. This has given me hope, knowing that the transcribers have made so many mistakes, they may have just missed out on the Lennons because their name is so illegible - even when its clearly written .
So... no doing anything else for the next few days (except maybe the odd rest for my eyes) until I find something.
Thanks
Tony

[colette]

Hi Tony i could be they were not at home at the time and maybe new neighbours either side who didnt know there names birth places ages etc.... i guess that could happen.

But when you think of it i guess alot of those census papers were ruined with pure age..

Enjoy roaming through the old streets haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa rest the eyes every 20 mins.. and dont forget you can jump by changing the image number at the top to get to the street quicker..

Colette

[simone]

Hi Tony

If it's any help I scrolled through Burlington St in 1891, that's how I originally found Tom Lennon, living so close to Peter. Didn't do any other census years though.

Good Luck

Simone x

[tonyhennessey1]

Thanks Simone I'll make sure I don't do that one again.
I managed to do 1871's Burlington St. last night.

Tony

[colette]

Hi all it maybe worth doing Johnson St in 1861...i will make a start..

Tony did you say you had a baptism record for Peter or was it his birth cert / if Baptism what church was it..

Colette

[Dominex]

Hi,

I've just trawled through Liverpool > Dale Street > District 7g

Found no Lennons or anything similar

Sue

[colette]

Hi me too in 1861 trawled through Standish St North St & Johnson St... saw John Gannon as Stepson to Thomas Johnson and Catherine at 12 Johnson St..

And his uncle Edward Neary at number 25 Standish St again NO LENNONS or anything similar..

Colette

[colette]

Hi Tony .. my pal Tony has found these Lennon's for you...

Electoral Register 1881 - John Gannon at 7h in 8Ct Burlington
Electoral Register 1884 - John Gannon at 4h in 8Ct Burlington
.........There was a William Lemon at 211 Burlington - he was there for some time.

The only Thomas Lennon was living at Wilbraham Place & Nash Grove.


Electoral Register 1870 - William Lemon - 211 Burlington St.
.....................................James Lennon - 31 Eldon Place.

Electoral Register 1871 - Thomas Lemon - 19 Wilbraham Place.
.....................................Hugh Lennon - 6 Maddrell St.
.....................................James Lennon - 14 in 15Ct Carlton St.
.....................................James Lennon - 31 Eldon Place.
.....................................Patrick Lennon - 48 Porter Street.
.....................................Mathew Lennon - 3 in 11Ct Blackstock St.
Electoral Register 1873 - Thomas Lennon - 21 Nash Grove - previous address 19 Wilbraham Place (see 1871 census below)

Electoral Register 1874 - James Lennon - 31 Eldon Place.
......................................James Lennon - 4 in 26Ct Bond St. - previous 6 in 12Ct & 4 in 26Ct.
.....................................Thomas Lennon - 21 Nash Grove.

Electoral Register 1876 - James Lennon - 1 in 12Ct Bond St.
.....................................John Lennon - 14 Creer St.
.....................................Thomas Lennon - 21 Nash Grove.

Electoral Register 1877 - as 1876
Electoral Register 1878 - only John Lennon at 14 Creer St.


1871 Census – RG10, Piece 3756 – folio 112, page 45
Add: 19 Wilbraham Place
Thomas Dennan – 48yrs – master carter – all born Lpool
Mary Dennan – 42yrs -
James Dennan – 17yrs - carter
Charles Dennan – 15yrs
Joseph Dennan – 12yrs
Ann Dennan – 8yrs

Its like this man did not exist unless he uses another forename ..

Regards Colette courtesy of TonyS..

[colette]

Meany to say searched all School Lane & Thomas St in 1841... the only family i could find was..

Thomas St
John Lennon age 35 b Ireland Tallow Chandler
Ann age 35 b Ireland
James age 13 b Lancs
Edward age 10 b Lancs
Ann age 4 born Lancs

1851 they are at Blake St

Colette

[Dominex]

1871 Census – RG10, Piece 3756 – folio 112, page 45
Add: 19 Wilbraham Place
Thomas Dennan – 48yrs – master carter – all born Lpool
Mary Dennan – 42yrs -
James Dennan – 17yrs - carter
Charles Dennan – 15yrs
Joseph Dennan – 12yrs
Ann Dennan – 8yrs

Wouldn't it be great if we could find a family with a Peter!

Nice work on your friends behalf Colette

[tonyhennessey1]

Hi Colette
Once again thank you for your hard work on this and thank your friend Tony for me.

I'm not sure what conclusions to reach from all of this; it'll take me some time to digest it properly.

On Thomas Lemon and Mary Devitts marriage cert. from 1846 they were living in School Lane. Was it School Lane or was it Thomas St you found Lennons living on the 1841. Is this the School Lane off Hanover Street in town or another one?
Incidently, (and I'm presuming you already know this address from last year's search) I took Thomas St to read Thomas's Street meaning that when Mary was asked where she was living by the registrar she replied "Thomas's Street" (as in living in the same street as Thomas).

I have both Peter Lennon's birth and baptism certs. His Baptism took place in Holy Cross Church (wherever that is/was).
Ann McAndrew was the only Godparent.

Thanks
Tony

[Dominex]

Oh another name!

There's an Ann McAndrew c 1805 Ireland, husband Patrick on the 1871 3 court 6 house , can't make out the street though. Titterburn?

Sue

[colette]

School Lane ran right across the back of St Peters Church were the blue cross hospital was... Thomas St was just accross the way from School Lane..

Makes me wonder why they never married at St Peter's when they could see it from were they were living..

It could be Thomas was lodging at some point with John who could be his brother.. as his dad was a John...and this is how he met Mary Devitt..

All speculation isnt it.. i am starting to think Peter went by another pet name as a child..

Thomas & Mary must have had a son named John or James even after there fathers wouldnt you think.. and maybe one had a brother named Peter..


Colette

[tonyhennessey1]

Hi Sue
Its Tithebarn Street in the Dale Street area.
I found her there and am currently on page 15 of 39 (district 16) in that area for the 1871.
There is another Ann McAndrew but she's in Toxteth.

Hi Collette
the only School Lane I can find in my 1904 maps is the one in town (I don't have an index so maybe I've missed it. What's the nearest big road?
Where was Holy Cross Church?

Thanks
Tony

[simone]

Hi Tony/Sue/Colette

Holy Cross Church was Great Crosshall Street. It closed in 2001.

Simone x

[simone]

Hi

I am just going to flick through district 15, in 1841, where I found John Bradly, witness to marriage, and the too old Thomas Lemon. As long as no one else has done it.

I'll start anyway and check back in a mo.

Simone x

[simone]

Well, only found an Ann Lemon age 60 in Plumb Street. That is as well as the Thomas Lemon age 60. He is also in Plumb Street, but they are not together. Ann is with Sarah Chatterton, age 6.

Ann Lemon HO107 555 13 27 46
Thomas Lemon HO107 555 13 18 29

Simone x

[colette]

Hi Tony could you tell me is it definatly SCHOOL LANE or SCHOOL PLACE on the marriage cert.

Colette

[tonyhennessey1]

Hi Colette
Its clearly School Lane

Tony

[colette]

Hi Tony School Lane was the street than ran behind Church St off Paradise St.. by the Blue Coat Chambers..

Reason i asked if it says School Lane or School Place is because there was a School Place by Johnson St Long ago...

Colette