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I have seen once before, it's with your family too
If you look at the 1891 census at Mary's parents living next to Peter and Mary in Burlington St, listed wth James V Roberts is a sister to Mary, and it reads as Mary A Roberts age 14, but go back to the 1881 census and she is Margaret
1881 rg11 3596 127 35 Margaret A Roberts
1891 rg12 2901 31 11 Mary A Roberts
So in each 1891 case Roberts and Cowley, this particular enumerator must write Marg A looking like Mary A.
Hi Simone
the only real possibility I found in Liverpool for a Henry Cowley marriage is in 1872 (when wife Margaret would have been 18 ). This has a match with a Margaret but her maiden name is Williams not Lennon. I've checked all ways for a Mary or Margaret Lennon but nothing comes up to match Cowley.
I was considering if it may be possible for Tom to have been the brother in law of Margaret/Mary instead of Henry - as in a Lennon married her brother or sister.
Tony
Hennessy - Liverpool & Cork, Lennon/Devit - Liverpool & Belfast, Cosgrove - Liverpool & Dublin, Pierce - Liverpool & Wexford, Roberts/Valentine - Lancs & Transylvania,
O'Donoghue/Wallace - Clare & Limerick, Irwin/Russell - Tyrone & Strathaven & Jarrow
Yes I think she is Margaret- here they are in 1881
RG11 3596 116 13 they are at 72 Burlington St
Very coincidentall if you ask me that they are mostly in Burlington St on census returns.
Yes , Tom could be her b-in-law. Also could he classed a b-in-law because his brother John married their daughter Margaret in 1888, maybe..
Henry is single in 1871- Could Henry be Margaret's second marriage
Is she a Lennon m Williams m Cowley although it would have had to be quick if she is the Williams one you found Oh the possibilities are e ndless
I seem to recall 1st time round finding a Thomas and Mary Lennon with a daughter Margaret in 1851 Will have to go rooting again
Will have to sign off for a bit but I will be back
So I don't let this one slip by, and I do know it's a bit out of the way, but in Kirkham on the 1871, there's a Thomas and Mary Lennon both c1821 Ireland. No children with them though. He's a labourer. Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4219; Folio: 91; Page: 34; GSU roll: 846959
What also baffles me is the age difference between Mary A and Peter. Thomas could've been away at sea a lot. Then there's Mary's age. If she was born about 1821 then she would've been 45/46 when she had Peter? Though that's probably not that unusual in those days?
It's a double definite conspiracy now The Lennons are definitely in cahoots with the Montroses, and I'll bet the McElwains have a hand in it too
John Gannon and Mary A Lennon married at St Peters, 1878. I can't find them in 1881.I've just been trying to tie up those Lennons who married at St Peter's at around the same time, and I can't find them on the 1881 census either You would think it would be easy to find a Stephen Lennon married to a Susan, amongst others, but No Perhaps I've got overkill now
Must break off now, genealogy sea sickness rearing
What are the details for John Gannon?
On 1881
Found a John Gamon c 1851 Ireland, In Litherland, wife Mary, children Ann and Cathering. He's unemployed gen. labourer.
Or does this sound more promising?
Street address: 8 CT 7 H Burlington St
John Gunnon
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Boiler Maker
Mary A. Gunnon
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Mary E. Dutton
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Wigan
Only know the details Tony has put in his 1st message on this thread
Marriage John Gannon b 1854 to Mary A Lennon b 1856 in 1878. Residence for Mary A, Johnson St - looked on Lancs BMD it says marriage took place at St Peters
Burlington St one sounds more promising doesn't it, after all that's where they all been hanging out at sometime or other
Simone x
Name: Thomas Lennon
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool
Civil parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: Boys Orphanage Certified Industrial School
So now we have Mary Ann and Tom as siblings to Peter but what of John He married Margaret Cowley in 1888, is he another brother who has married Henry's sister, maybe?
Also Henry was married to Margaret in 1881, so she must be his 1st wife.
Is all this becoming clear Tony
Simone x
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Bah my maths is terrible! I should've got my daughter to work it out!!
I worked out Tom being born c1864 not 1874, so scrap that 1 in the orphanage? but........... wonder if they have his age wrong on the census? Wouldn't Mary have been 50+ when she had him?
Yes it would but then again we don't have a definite dob for Thomas and Mary, marriage in 1846 just says 'full age'. Also, although it seems highly likely we can't be absolutely sure that Lemon/Devit marriage is correct. But then what's the likelihood of 2 names so similar marrying a Devit
The Lennons are definitely in cahoots with the Montroses, and I'll bet the McElwains have a hand in it too 
You would think it would be easy to find a Stephen Lennon married to a Susan, amongst others, but No