Query about a baptism entry

[MaryA]

Hi there, In 1879 Catherine Maria Duke was baptised at St Cleopas church, however beneath her entry and also a couple of others is a reference to "In St Mary's ???? Church"

Has anybody an idea what this word is - icon or iron? and what does the reference mean, presumably the ceremony didn't take place in St Cleopas itself for some reason.

Thanks all

[retiringtype]

It's "iron" Mary.It's all explained here: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/Tox ... dexsc.html

[MaryA]

Thank you RT, I've never heard of this before, not that I've had many dealings with St Cleopas before.

I notice it mentions "St. Mary's Mission School" would this suggest that perhaps it could have been connected with non conformist, maybe Methodist or Wesleyan, rather than C of E.

[retiringtype]

No it was definitely Anglican. The clergy of St Cleopas obtained a licence to hold services in the Mission School to start with, then built the corrugated chapel which was known as St Mary's Iron Church but was eventually consecrated as St Gabriel's.

[MaryA]

Thank you for your insight.

[daggers]

There were quite a few iron churches, and a Garston company, Moretons or Morton’s provided some locally and also exported.
Wriggly tin, as known on the old docks.
D

[MaryA]

This is fascinating, I only ever knew about St George's, Everton, or perhaps that's just famous because it was the first.

[daggers]

There were two sorts of iron construction: cast iron, as in St George, Everton and St Michael in the Hamlet, where both have columns and arches of cast iron. These were permanent buildings.
The others, often known as iron or tin churches had a frame of some sort, cladded with galvanised corrugated iron. These last were often dismantled and re-used elsewhere.
'The Churches of Liverpool' by David Lewis has a number of references to each type.
D

[daggers]

There were two sorts of iron construction: cast iron, as in St George, Everton and St Michael in the Hamlet, where both have columns and arches of cast iron. These were permanent buildings.
The others, often known as iron or tin churches had a frame of some sort, cladded with galvanised corrugated iron. These last were often dismantled and re-used elsewhere.
'The Churches of Liverpool' by David Lewis has a number of references to each type.
D

P.S. it was Morton, not Moreton.

[MaryA]

Such knowledge on this forum, thanks.

[PatM]

Thank you for your help with this and thanks to Mary for posting it for me.

[BarbaraW]

Such knowledge on this forum, thanks.

That's why I always come here with knotty problems

[Bertieone]

Such knowledge on this forum, thanks.

That's why I always come here with knotty problems

Where answers are actually related to the questions asked

[MaryA]

Such knowledge on this forum, thanks.

That's why I always come here with knotty problems

Where answers are actually related to the questions asked

Who cares, I'd rather it was friendly like you all are

[alleycat]

Again many thanks to you all for the answers you have posted re the Baptism for St Cleopas- this sort of help is invaluable, and helps us discount some brick walls.


Your help always appreciated.

[retiringtype]

Interesting wiki article on "Tin Tabernacles": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_tabernacle

[alleycat]

Thanks again "retiringtype" very interesting and informative - and I am sure other people will find this very useful as well.