Thomas Orrett and Rose Ellen Hughes

[JohnnyO]

Hi, I have renewed my subscription to FMP and have been browsing through the Newspapers section. There is a death Notice in the Liverpool Echo on 31st July 1929 reading:

Hughes - July 28th suddenly at 45 Upper Stanhope street cottages, Thomas Orrett, the dearly beloved husband of Rose Ellen Hughes. Interment at Allerton cemetery.

I cannot find a marriage for them, or even a Thomas Orrett marrying anyone called Rose or Rose Ellen. Originally I thought that he died at age 45, but then realised that it was the address . Still cannot find anything

I may have to revisit the Allerton cemetery records to see if I can find any record of the burial and see if there is a headstone.

[Bertieone]

John,

Thomas Orrett Hughes married Rose Ellen Spencer, 1919, St Peter's

[Bertieone]

[Bertieone]

[JohnnyO]

Doh, great work Bert as ever, I wondered why the death notice was in the name of Hughes! Looking a bit more, FMP has the copy marriage register with both parties being widowed at the time of that marriage. Thomas Hughes father was John Hughes, deceased and Rose's father being Peter Nelson.

I suppose now I should be looking for the marriage of Peter Nelson to someone related to an Orrett. Just found this:

Baptism: 25 Aug 1878 St Cuthbert, Everton, Lancashire, England
Thomas Orrett Hughes - [Child] of John Hughes & Elizabeth
Born: 27 Nov 1877
Abode: 48 Nesfield Street
Occupation: Messenger
Baptised by: J. Gallagher
Register: Baptisms 1892 - 1899, Page 5, Entry 4
Source: LDS Film 2147911

Wonder if Elizabeth is the Orrett?

Sorry, your marriage image came through at exactly the same time as I posted!

[alex69]

Thomas Arrett (sic) Hughes JAN-MAR 1878 West Derby & Toxteth 8b 315 per GRO MMN CROSLEY (sic)

FREEBMD Marriage Thomas HUGHES & Elizabeth CROSSLEY JAN-MAR 1876 West Derby 8b 420

[Bertieone]

Another child, Reg, mmn Crossley

Baptism: 28 Dec 1879 St Cuthbert, Everton, Lancashire, England
Sarah Crossley Hughes - [Child] of John Hughes & Elizabeth
Born: 24 May 1879
Abode: 48 Nesfield Street
Occupation: Messenger
Notes: 14 Jul 1879. Private. Received into the church 28 Dec 1879
Baptised by: I. Holmes and E. E. Cunnington
Register: Baptisms 1892 - 1899, Page 9, Entry 2
Source: LDS Film 2147911

[alex69]

Elizabeth CROSSLEY birth SEP-DEC 1843 West Derby vol 20 p 899 MMN ORRETT per GRO

Elizabeth CROSSLEY dau of Thomas and Mary baptised 12 November 1843 Walton on the Hill. Father occupation Servant to Mr Fletcher (ancestry.co.uk L'pool Cof E baptisms 1813-1917)

Also Mary Crossley APR-JUN 1842 West Derby vol 20 p 934 MMN Orrett

[JohnnyO]

Great work as ever Bert. I was ruminating about the Orrett link but you have found it!

FMP has the marriage Banns for Thomas Crossley marrying Mary Orrett on 4th June 1834 at St Anne Richmond church, Liverpool. He was a servant, she a spinster.

I have 2 possible Mary Orrett candidates in my tree, one born 1799 and one 1816. Shame the Banns didn't give an age. Looking at my tree, the 1799 lady is accounted for, so maybe it could be the 1816 Mary.

[Bertieone]

John,

Credit to Alex on this occasion.

[JohnnyO]

John,

Credit to Alex on this occasion.

Alex, my sincere apologies, I was looking on my mobile phone and did not see your name as sending the response, so many thanks.

The 1816 Mary in my tree is not the correct one either - she is in the 1841 census as single and living with parents. Ah well, may have to park her for now.

Thanks to you both for your sterling efforts.