Workhouse Birth

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BarbaraW
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Re: Workhouse Birth

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Hello it's been a long time but winter is drawing on so here I am again. I am resurrecting this thread to see what you all think about my summation.

"On the family search 1881 Census I found this


Rd. LEWIS Head M Male 31 Dock Labourer Lancashire, England
Martha LEWIS Wife M Female 28 Lancashire, England
Irlam LEWIS Son U Male 7 Lancashire, England
Francis LEWIS Daur U Female 11 m Lancashire, England
Wm. ATHERTON Fat In Law W Male 66 Lancashire, England Brick Layer Unemployed

Source Information:
Dwelling Prince Edwin St No (9) Court (4)
Census Place Everton, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341876
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3656 / 128
Page Number 25
by Blue70 » 13 Oct 2010 19:15"


I have searched high and low for Irlam Lewis and can find no mention of him except on this one census. On the 1891 census there is an Ellen Lewis, daughter 17 and a Frank Lewis son aged 10. I think the above Irlam the son is actually Ellen the daughter and the above Francis daughter is actually Frank the son.

Perhaps the enumerator couldn't read his own writing or got in a muddle trying to write it all out with a scratchy pen nib and ink by candle light in a hovel of a court dwelling :?
Povall Cheshire/Liverpool, Williams/Owens Caernarvon, Brown Liverpool/Cumberland/Ireland, Pritchard Liverpool, Atherton Liverpool, Banks Liverpool, Kelly IOM, Grimes/Botworth/Smith Wirral, Rice Manchester/Ireland, Lockley Manchester, Bowler Manchester.

BarbaraW
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Re: Workhouse Birth

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1891 census:

Name: Richard Lewis
Gender: Male
Age: 41
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1850
Spouse: Martha Lewis
Child: Ellen Lewis
Frank Lewis
Richard Lewis
William Lewis
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Everton
Residence Place: Liverpool, Everton, Lancashire, England
Sub registration district: South Everton
ED, Institution or Vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2944
Folio: 117
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Lewis 41
Martha Lewis 40
Ellen Lewis 17
Frank Lewis 10
Richard Lewis 5
William Lewis 5
Martha Lewis 3
Povall Cheshire/Liverpool, Williams/Owens Caernarvon, Brown Liverpool/Cumberland/Ireland, Pritchard Liverpool, Atherton Liverpool, Banks Liverpool, Kelly IOM, Grimes/Botworth/Smith Wirral, Rice Manchester/Ireland, Lockley Manchester, Bowler Manchester.

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Re: Workhouse Birth

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Birth Reg,

LEWIS, ELLEN mothers maiden name, ATHERTON
GRO Reference: 1874 J Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 324
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Re: Workhouse Birth

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No birth, marriage or death for a Irlam Lewis, I also think it's Ellen.
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Re: Workhouse Birth

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Yes, Frank,

LEWIS, FRANK mmn,ATHERTON
GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 396
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Re: Workhouse Birth

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Thank you Bertie, nice to see you agree with me. :D and also thank you for your prompt reply.
Povall Cheshire/Liverpool, Williams/Owens Caernarvon, Brown Liverpool/Cumberland/Ireland, Pritchard Liverpool, Atherton Liverpool, Banks Liverpool, Kelly IOM, Grimes/Botworth/Smith Wirral, Rice Manchester/Ireland, Lockley Manchester, Bowler Manchester.

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