Liverpool Catholic Burial Records - Ford

[Jimbo]

Hi - does anyone know if there are accessible records showing who owns a particular plot in Ford Cemetery? I am familiar with the burial records on-line which record burials and plot numbers - but are there records that show who owns the plot? I guess this could be sensitive info which is not publicly available. Any help would be appreciated.

[Bertieone]

Hope this helps,

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.u ... fc57dd718f

[Jimbo]

Thanks Bertieone - that is really helpful. I am not totally clear though if the Deed and Grave Owner Records are readily available. I guess I will need to visit the Records Office to see. This is my first thread and just realised I have put it in the wrong place!

[Blue70]

Ozranga (Marienne an expat Scouser in Australia) on RootsChat offers free look-ups of private plot records for Ford Cemetery and Yew Tree Cemetery she can tell you the names of the private plot owners. She has a copy of the records on microfiche. The look-ups do not include public graves where a number of people unrelated to each other are buried those graves are not privately owned. For further assistance about issues of ownership, gravestones etc contact the Liverpool RC Archdiocese:-

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.ph ... 651292.576

http://www.liverpoolcatholic.org.uk/


Blue

[MaryA]

The reverse look up (ie by Grave Number), giving the owner of the plot is available in Black Box 26 in the Liverpool Record Office.

[Jimbo]

Thanks Blue - I will see if they can help

[Jimbo]

Thanks Mary - if I don't get the info from RootsChat I will visit the records office

[barley28]

Crosby Library have the full set of microfiche, with an alphabetical name index and also a sequential grave index showing the owners and all the people in the grave, with burial dates. Ancestry's indexes sometimes show only the grave number but not the section, but the Crosby Library microfiche show the correct sections and numbers.
Barbara

[Blue70]

This look-up was completed here:-

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.ph ... 651292.585


Blue

[Horsley2016]

Sorry to hijack the post slightly... I've come across a relative who died at around 1 year old. She was buried at Ford - listed on 11th Jan 1932 in Grave 1374. There seems to be an awful lot of babies in this 'grave number.' Am I right in assuming this would have been a 'paupers' grave? Would this have been the most basic cost of burial?

I'm also assuming I stand virtually no chance of knowing any further details of cause of death etc?
Thanks
M

[Blue70]

Sorry to hijack the post slightly... I've come across a relative who died at around 1 year old. She was buried at Ford - listed on 11th Jan 1932 in Grave 1374. There seems to be an awful lot of babies in this 'grave number.' Am I right in assuming this would have been a 'paupers' grave? Would this have been the most basic cost of burial?

I'm also assuming I stand virtually no chance of knowing any further details of cause of death etc?
Thanks
M

This will be a public burial paid for by the family there were no pauper burials at Ford Cemetery. Pauper burials were paid for by the C of E "parish". Public burials were at one time the most common type of burial. Most people did not buy family plots. There was nothing wrong in being buried in the same grave as strangers nor in the amount of interments in public graves. To modern perceptions unmarked public graves can appear sad and to indicate poverty but this is not necessarily so. Likewise modern cremation practices are a matter of choice and not indicative of the financial status of the family.

If you can identify the death index you can order the death certificate from the GRO. The death certificate should give the cause of death.


Blue

[Horsley2016]

Many thanks Blue, as always very grateful to you for sharing your knowledge. I do have the reference and I think I may well order the certifcate, poor lass. Although her Mother (my Great Grandmother) married twice and lost many. She also flitted (my Nan's words!) between CoE and Catholic as her first husband and deceased children seem to be buried at Walton Park CoE and she remarried with then Catholic connections...

M