Edmund Bradshaw b c 1755 in Liverpool?

[Blue70]

Much clearer than the bishop's transcipts on Anc. Was just about to try and find my way around St John's on Family search. By the way, when John died in 1817 it states he was a catholic.
It also says Mitton Street, but I can't find that on Liverpool projects............... any ideas?

Could it be Milton Street? Family Search is missing the St John burials for 1814-23 so I can't view the 1817 burial.


Blue

[Blue70]

Just a few observations:-

1. Looking at the St John burial records Margaret Bradshaw buried 11 Dec 1799 aged 70 appears to be the most likely first person on the gravestone
2. The second name is probably the Easter Bradshaw baptised at St Mary's in 1752
3. Easter may have had a private baptism in 1752 then a public baptism in 1755
4. The Easter/Esther link makes it likely the parents were William Bradshaw and Margaret Sephton
5. Any idea what happened to Daniel baptised in 1757? Could he have been renamed Edmund?


Blue

[lynne99]

Agree with the first one and forth. 2 , how can you tell it's ester?
3. There were only 3 years between the two Esther's. So maybe the ages got muddled a year out, which it is could be either.
Point 5 is very interesting. I only not know what happened to him. I need to find if there is any other information. I can't find death of William who I believe was baptised in 1730 . Thanks for your help

[Blue70]

The 1752 baptism and Esther's age at death in 1811 is a very good match. Burials for women usually have d of (daughter of), w of (wife of) or widow. Esther's has none of these. She appears not to have married.


Blue

[lynne99]

Hi, Blue. When you found the inscription of Bradshaws at St John's church, did you have to look through them all or was there a way to search?? I have been trying to see if there was a MI for Bradshaw at St Peter's church. Edmund the mason died in April 1747 and him and some of his children and grand children were buried there. The info I got was from Lancashire OPC. Thanks Lynne

[Blue70]

I found an index within the collection. Here is the index page for that Bradshaw grave at St John's:-

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cat=421332


Blue

[Blue70]

Here's the first page of St Peter's CE gravestone inscription index for the letter B you have to go through all the Bs as they are not in alphabetical order:-

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cat=399526


Blue

[lynne99]

Not very good at this. I have found St Peter's records from your link. I have eliminated those from St Nicks and St Thomas. I still can't find an index.

[Blue70]

It doesn't look like there's a gravestone for Edmund Bradshaw 1747.

St Peter CE

68 Edmund Bradshaw 1762

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cat=399526


140 Richard Bradshaw 1742
140 Thos Bradshaw 1795
140 Edmund Bradshaw 1797
140 Ellen Bradshaw 1772

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cat=399526


361 Elizabeth Bradshaw 1789

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cat=399526


1122 William Bradshaw

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cat=399526


1929 Alice Bradshaw 1819

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cat=399526



Blue

[lynne99]

Thanks again Blue. The individuals I cannot trace, but the grave with lots in fits very nicely thanks. They were the children and grandchildren of Edmund who died 1747. I believe he left a will in 1752 as it states he was a mason. That would confirm the connection I hope. It is available at family search, but it says you have to go there to view it. . When I've saved up and finished my marking I'll get FMP for a month and sort it.
Thanks Blue I owe you.

[MaryA]

I believe he left a will in 1752 as it states he was a mason. .... It is available at family search, but it says you have to go there to view it.

Do you have the link to familysearch for the Will. It doesn't show up on FMP.

[MaryA]

From the xmission site there are these two entries. As both of them mention Liverpool I believe they would be held at the Lancashire RO in Preston, give them a call to be sure.

Account Bradshaw Edmund of Liverpool, mason Cit. 1752
Supra Bradshaw Edmund of Liverpool 1752

[lynne99]

Thanks Mary, they are the 2 I found and following the instructions, I found the family search numbers, but you get a message that it can only be viewed at a Family search office. (that's not the correct name but I've forgotten it. I will ring Preston on Monday. Fingers crossed. Thanks again for looking for me.

[Hilary]

Lancashire Record Ofice isn't open on Mondays. You could email them and ask the cost of a copy of the will.

[lynne99]

Will do that then. Thanks for the info.

[lynne99]

Thanks all. I have e mailed Lancashire record office and will await their reply.
Secondly yes it was Milton Street, just over a road from Mile End. I wondered if John lived there and his parents in Mile end, or did they all live there and move back to Mile End. ( John was 18 when he died.) I wonder if there were directories in those days. c 1817.
Lynne

[MaryA]

I wonder if there were directories in those days. c 1817.
Lynne

Well I think there must be but they will be at the RO. Here are any entries for 1825 which is the nearest I have.

MILE END. 72, N. Scotland road.
1 Bradshaw Henry

N. SCOTLAND RD. 2, Rose place
73 Bradshaw Edmund

PITT STREET, 16, Cleveland square
Bradshaw, Wanklyn, and Sons

SHAW's BROW, 84, Dale St.
1 Bradshaw Richard

TARLETON ST. 19, Church street,
7 Bradshaw Alice

VERNON STREET, 31, Dale street.
38 Bradshaw Joseph

HILL STREET N. 14, Great Howard st.
1 Bradshaw James

JORDAN STREET, 38, St. James street,
44 Bradshaw Eliz.

[lynne99]

Thanks Mary, Very useful

[lynne99]

Hi Mary. What do the numbers represent eg.
N. SCOTLAND RD. 2, Rose place
73 Bradshaw Edmund

is 73 his age? If it is why are there people aged 1 with no parents listed??

[MaryA]

I just copied these from a street directory, so definitely not ages. Edmund would live in 73 Rose Place.