Brother of Gt.Gran Emmeline Britton. Joseph Britton.

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Brother of Gt.Gran Emmeline Britton. Joseph Britton.

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Hi everyone, I've def. hit a brick wall. I've looked up BMD for Liverpool but no luck.Joseph was born when Emma was 10yrs. old. I've been going round in circles. Perhaps you might find some details for me. Was he married, where did he live? I for any help.Marie.'ll carry on and pop on here in case you've had some success. Many thanks

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Hi can you provide more details like when and where Emmeline was born. Do you have her on any censuses or baptisms we could look at please?
Povall Cheshire/Liverpool, Williams/Owens Caernarvon, Brown Liverpool/Cumberland/Ireland, Pritchard Liverpool, Atherton Liverpool, Banks Liverpool, Kelly IOM, Grimes/Botworth/Smith Wirral, Rice Manchester/Ireland, Lockley Manchester, Bowler Manchester.

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p.s. I bet there are many ways of spelling the surname Britton, have you tried doing wildcard searches?
Povall Cheshire/Liverpool, Williams/Owens Caernarvon, Brown Liverpool/Cumberland/Ireland, Pritchard Liverpool, Atherton Liverpool, Banks Liverpool, Kelly IOM, Grimes/Botworth/Smith Wirral, Rice Manchester/Ireland, Lockley Manchester, Bowler Manchester.

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Hoping that the only Emmaline Britton I've found is yours this is her entry for birth.

Births Sep 1910 BRITTON Emmaline W. Derby 8b 32[68]

As she was born before 1911 when the mother's maiden name was given in the indexes, perhaps you could tell us what it is from Emmaline's birth certificate, as this will make it easier to find somebody in approximately 1920.
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Assuming that your Emma is the grandchild of Thomas and Emma, living at 103 County Road in 1911, were her parents William and Mary who have been married one year? If so I'm assuming this is their marriage
1910 BRITTON William FENNER Mary B Kirkdale, St. Mary Liverpool

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May Britton Oct-Nov-Dec 1918 West Derby Lancashire 8b 433
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marilib13 wrote:Hi everyone, I've def. hit a brick wall. I've looked up BMD for Liverpool but no luck.Joseph was born when Emma was 10yrs. old. I've been going round in circles. Perhaps you might find some details for me. Was he married, where did he live? I for any help.Marie.'ll carry on and pop on here in case you've had some success. Many thanks

Can you tell us everything you know about Joseph and his relationship to Emma with approximate dates and sources please as you haven't provided enough information here for us to try to help you.


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Marie,

Have you checked out the 2 Joseph Britton's born in Scotland, 1919, could be the same person giving 2 hits?

The family have connections to Scotland, 1901 census and 2 girls born in Govan.

I thought the name rang a bell,

https://www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/ ... =2&t=14214
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If that is the case, there are at least two previous posts about this query, and my suggestion above may be completely erroneous so disregard it - absolutely more information required.
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Had a spare credit, the 2 in 1919 with no image available.

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The 1910 marriage Mary posted, William Britton/Mary B Fenner,

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Hi Mr.B.

i've now found Josephs' details. His Fathers' name is James and Mothers' name is Jane.They lived on Commercial Road, Kirkdale. Liverpool. I've got a lot more info. but as I have a memory problem, I've forgotten where \i've put the details. Time for sorting my paperwork. I'm now going to find out all I can about Josephs' life. Catch you later.Many thanks, everyone.Marilib.

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Marie,

Are you looking for Joseph Fenner, born 1876, ten years after Emma Fenner, born 1866, children of James B & Jane Fenner, Commercial Rd, 1881 census?
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Hi Everyone,
I'm now looking for relations for Joseph I've got his date of birth. I tried the BMD's for Liverpool, no luck. I'm going to try again, if no success, perhaps you could give me somewhere else to try.

Thanks for your patience.

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I'm sure we have the 1881 census details somewhere but it's going to be a pain searching the other posts for them each time we want to refer to it, so here it is

RG11; Piece: 3681; Folio: 92; Page: 44
70 Commercial Road, Kirkdale
All born Liverpool
James A Fenner Head M 48 Pitch boiler
Jane Wife m 47
Emma 15 Scholar
Joseph 5 Scholar
Joseph Martindale Stepfather 58 Stone mason
Martin mother 67

I notice that even the enumerator has underlined "Martin", presumably he was confused too.

Now what "relations" are you looking for? If it is wife and children then there are two possible marriages, I would suspect the first is the correct one.

1897 FENNER Joseph MCKEON Mary Kirkdale, St. Mary
1902 FENNER Joseph W HOGG Bertha West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended

The second may be an RC marriage, the first will be available at the Liverpool Record Office, needed to check the father's details are correct.
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The parents above are James Bell Fenner, married Jane Hall,

Son, Joseph Bell Fenner, bn 1875, Liverpool, , Married Mary McKeon.
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1911,
Freeland St
RG14, P22453

Joseph Bell Fenner 35 Carter
Mary Fenner 35
James Fenner 13
Annie Fenner 11
Jane Fenner 10
Joseph Fenner 8
Arthur Fenner 4
Albert Fenner 2
George Fenner 1/12
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Death,


Deaths Dec 1932

Fenner, Joseph B 57 Liverpool 8b 179

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I may be posting this on the wrong thread but here are the details of the marriage I looked up.

St Mary's Kirkdale, 13 April 1897
Joseph Fenner, age 21, Bachelor, Carter, 3 Tawd Street, Father James Fenner, Carpenter
Mary McKeon, age 21, Spinster, 3 Tawd Street, father Patrick McKeon, deceased
Both signed their names
Witnesses Alfred Akins and Sarah Ann Doyle
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