16 South Road, Waterloo

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16 South Road, Waterloo

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In 1911 we have 4 people living in a 10 room house at 16 South Road, Waterloo.

Joseph Brown and his wife Jane are living as boarders with Ellen Tootall (head) and Anne Brown (their daughter), Ellen and Anne are shown as partners (transcribed by Anc as pasheer!!) and are both confectioners. I am assuming this was some sort of business partnership as I've not come across this before in the relationship field.

How can I find out anything more about this business if in fact it was one as they both say employed at home?
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For the crew,

Ellen Tootell 42
Ann Brown 30
Joseph Brown 66
Jone Brown 68
16 South Rd
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1911 Directory,Image

6 South Rd, Tootell & Brown, The Misses Confectioners.

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1547/ ... ,1316,2385
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Bertieone wrote:1911 Directory,Image

6 South Rd, Tootell & Brown, The Misses Confectioners.

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1547/ ... ,1316,2385
Thanks for that Bertie, I see number 20 is a shop.

I have Annie Brown living in 1901 with Ellen Tootall's mother Jane in St Anne on the Sea, Jane is a shopkeeper and confectioner and our Annie is an assistant.


piece number 3968, folio 41, page number 23
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Just had to mention, at No. 12, dentist by the name of PAIN :roll:
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big g wrote:Just had to mention, at No. 12, dentist by the name of PAIN :roll:
:lol: :lol: Love that and of course the appointment was at two thirty!
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Looking at the census list, number 6 was a shop and not inhabited. Number 16 as we know was also a shop, Stratherns drapers. So presumably Ellen Tootell and Ann Brown lived in the rooms above Stratherns and had their confectioners shop further down the road at number 6, near the corner with Bath Street and very close to the shore. They are not there in the 1914 directory.
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Thank you all, it looks like a nice area and another part of Liverpool I know very little about..........

I have been doing some other stuff and until this weekend I always thought Kirkdale was out near Kirkby way. :oops: :oops: :oops:
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When I saw the directory entry I immediately thought we were at the other end of South Road as the Liver Hotel is on the corner of South Road and Crosby Road. I wonder if the street has been renumbered at some time? I will enquire.

PS The locals might get cross if you described Waterloo as part of Liverpool!
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BarbaraW wrote: I always thought Kirkdale was out near Kirkby way. :oops: :oops: :oops:
The nearest you could say is that they are on the same train line into Liverpool :lol:
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Well you know you kind of have a picture in your head of where the different areas are, mine obviously need an overhaul!! :lol:
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When I saw the directory entry I immediately thought we were at the other end of South Road as the Liver Hotel is on the corner of South Road and Crosby Road
The directory snip is a bit confusing because it catches the end of the odd numbers (the Liver Hotel at the Crosby Road end) and the start of the even numbers (at the shore end).

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Here's a photo of that end of South Road, circa 1913. Number 6 is at the extreme left of shot. Arthur Partoon had taken over the Hartley Brothers photographic studio at number 2 by 1913. George McFadden's Irish Linen Depot is at 2b, advertising Irish Damasks. Across the street at number 13 is William Davies the baker, on the corner of Albert Road. That's possibly Septimus Davies the butcher in the baggy apron outside his shop at number 15.

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Wow!!! This photo is amazing RT and so is your information, thank you so much for sharing :)

What a view from the street of the Mersey and the ships sailing past.
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Another photo: the shops opposite numbers 6 and 16. This one seems to have been taken from Partoon's photographic studio at 2 South Road on the corner with Bath Street. It is circa 1914-15 and troops are marching up South Road from the direction of the shore. From the left, the shops are: number 9 Mrs E McDougall, confectioner; 11 Charles Shaw, watchmaker; 13 William Davies, baker; 15, Septimus Davies, butcher; 17 William Hudson, upholsterer; 19 A W Partoon's picture framing shop; 21 not sure (it was Costigan's grocers in the 1914 directory, then void in the 1915 Waterloo directory); 23 is T M Stephenson, butcher, on the corner with Mount Pleasant.

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These photo's are amazing and so clear, thank you so much RT.

Such detail, I wonder how many of these young men or boys really never made it back home again.
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Great pictures, and this is what South Road looks like today, taken from approx the same position using Google Maps. I know which one I prefer :D
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Agreed!!! The old one looks so much better. :D
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And the last photo being taken from opposite a funeral directors called "R S Cape" :lol:
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