Help with deciphering 1861 handwriting please.

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Help with deciphering 1861 handwriting please.

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Hello All,
I'm researching my McCraith ancestors, and have hit a snag with my 2nd great grand-aunt.
The online transcription of the 1861 UK census gives her name as 'Fensen McCraith' (aged 5). She was born in Liverpool. However, I can't find any other record for a person of this name (ie: no B,M,D, and no further census entries).
The 1871 census shows only her parents (Thomas & Mary), brother John, and sister Mary at the family's address.

So I'm wondering whether the transcription is inaccurate ... and 'Fensen' isn't her name at all? The handwriting looks pretty illegible to me ... so I was wondering if anyone here could possibly take a look at it and come up with an alternative name, please?
Household schedule no. 160; Piece 2710; Folio 116; Page no. 31. It's the next-to-bottom name on the page ...
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Edited to add ... if anyone could tell me the name of the street I'd be very grateful too! It looks to me like "Court No.4 Durso St" (Actually it just says "Durso" on the segment scanned above: the additional "St" is at the top of the page) ... however I haven't been able to find a historical reference to a Durso Street. It was in Everton (Parish of St Peter).
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Could it be Teresa?

I looked at it on another site and they have not given a first name for this entry so that wasn't much help.

I couldn't get your link to work so looked it up anyway.

Other site has given address as

Court 4, 2, Duoro Street, Everton
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Agree with Hilary, Teresa, Mary T(eresa,) 1871 census?

Douro St, page 1, Enumerators walk includes Fox St close by.
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Ah, Duoro Street ... Many thanks, Hilary! (Street is still there, but no houses).
I struggle with photobucket ... will try again:

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A family tree has her born 28 April 1852.

Her christening is under McCrath at SFX mother's maiden name looks like Archand or even Orchard!
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Address looks like, Douro St,
Name:
Mary Teresa McCrath
Birth Date:
28 Apr 1852
Baptism Date:
16 May 1852
Parish:
St Francis Xavier's (Francisci Xavarii), Lancashire, England
Father's name:
Thomas Mccrath
Mother's name:
Mary Archard
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Possible marriage at Christchurch Everton on 4 August 1873 image on Ancestry

Teresa McCraith to a Thomas Earl

She is 20 father Thomas warehouseman
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Many thanks Hilary and Bert ... I didn't have that info on Mary T, and I hadn't got as far as the mother's maiden name!

I don't think 'Fensen' and Mary T are the same person though ... According to census, Mary T was born in Ireland (as were her parents and older siblings); whereas 'Fensen' was born in Liverpool (plus a couple of younger siblings).
Mary T b. 1852 and 'Fensen' b. 1856
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I think the children were born Liverpool and the parents Ireland. Ages on censuses I would view with caution, Mary's maiden name is likely to be Archer and not as transcribed Archard at the baptism.
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Baptisms if the children
Thomas McCreight
7 Oct 1844
13 Oct 1844
St Anthony RC
Thomas McCreight and Mary Arches

Ellen McCrate
15 Feb 1850
3 March 1850
St Joseph RC
Thomas McCrate and Mary Archer

Mary Teresa McCrath
28 April 1852
16 May 1852
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Thomas McCrath and Mary Archard

John McCraith
27 March 1855
15 April 1855
SFX
Thomas McCraith and Mary Archel

Anadria seems to be Anastasia on other things McCraith
28 Oct 1857
10 Nov 1857
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Thomas McCraith and Mary Forest

Not found Michael yet but I expect he's there somewhere. I would say all the children were born in Liverpool and I still think Fensten is Mary Teresa. She marries just as Teresa.

Michael McCreith's birth registered March Q 1848 Liverpool. he marries in 1869.
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Gosh, thanks ever so much Hilary :D

NB: Ellen McCraith was my 2nd great-grandmother ... amazing change of fortunes: she was brought up in poverty in a Liverpool court dwelling, but was comfortably well-off by the time she passed away (living on the Isle of Man)!
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Bertieone wrote:I think the children were born Liverpool and the parents Ireland. Ages on censuses I would view with caution, Mary's maiden name is likely to be Archer and not as transcribed Archard at the baptism.
Ah yes ... Archer ... thanks, Bert. There's a James Archer (aged 50) living with the family in 1861; and he's still there in 1871!
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