loss of the tug albert and coal grab penrhyn 1923

[john finnegan]

looking for more information on a albert john young who drowned on the albert, he lived at canterbury road, seacome. who else lived at this address mother and father and any further information.

[Bertieone]

Hi John,

Having looked at the report in the Mersey Times, http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/shipwrecks1923.html
Information from that, I'm not convinced the deceased lads name was Albert.

1911, RG14 P21974,
Park Rd East, Birkenhead
George James Young 35, Steam Tug Agent, Birkenhead Cheshire,
Mary Elizabeth Young 34, Birkenhead Cheshire
George Victor Young 12 Liverpool, Walton
William Albert Young 10 Walton
Margaret Elizabeth Young 9 Walton
Alfred John Young 6 Birkenhead
Gertrude Evely Young 5 Birkenhead
Irene May Young 3 Birkenhead
Silvester Alexander Young 5/12 Birkenhead

Death,
Alfred J Young, aged 18,
1923 West Derby, 8b 497

[Bertieone]

Marriage, 1896, Birkenhead, 8a 659,

George James Young/Mary Elizabeth Blackburn

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3NS-D44

[Bertieone]

1901
Ripon St, RG13 P3453 F158 Page20

George J Young 25, Birkenhead, Mariner, Seaman.
Mary E Young 23 Birkenhead
George V Young 1 Liverpool
William A Young 2/12 Liverpool

[john finnegan]

Hi Bert many thanks,
I think albert was a typo when they were reporting on the tug "Albert". I am having trouble finding the marriage of Gertrude Evely Young and a Sidney Bradley, Gertrude being of the same family as Alfred.
Be grateful if you could help.

[Bertieone]

Sorry John, can't find a marriage yet.

There's 4 births between 1932/38, Birkenhead & Wallasey, Bradley/Young combination, are they connected to your search?

[john finnegan]

thanks bert, it is a sidney bradley and gertrude young that i am looking for john

[john finnegan]

Hi Bert, all i have on Sidney Bradley is he had sons, Douglas Sidney and a William and he was a gas welder any help. john

[Bertieone]

The 4 births below include the 2 you mentioned, unfortunately still haven't found a marriage,


Births Mar 1932
Bradley Barbara S, Young, Birkenhead 8a 644
Births Jun 1933
BRADLEY Douglas S, Young, Birkenhead 8a 784
Births Dec 1934
Bradley Evelyn J, Young, Birkenhead 8a 776
Births Mar 1938
Bradley William E, Young, Wallasey 8a 846

[MaryA]

Do you have one of the birth certificates John, especially of one of the older children.

In case she had been married before it might give her former name as well as maiden name.

[Blue70]

Hi John,

I think a number of us have checked for a marriage on Free BMD and had no luck so it doesn't appear to be on there:-

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Do you know if there are any Irish links? Did Sidney work in Belfast? I'm thinking they may have married outside England and Wales. Somewhere that doesn't have indexes online.



Blue

[Bertieone]

Do you know if there are any Irish links? Did Sidney work in Belfast? I'm thinking they may have married outside England and Wales. Somewhere that doesn't have indexes online.
Blue

Perhaps a possibility, can't say for sure if it's the same Sidney Bradley,
1938 directory,
Sidney Bradley,
47 Pasture Ave, Moreton.
Occupation, Welder,
this address would have been in the Wallasey registration district, the child William, 1938, reg, Wallasey, his trade may have taken him to Harland & Wolff?

[john finnegan]

Many thanks Bert,Mary and Blue, i think it a good idea to get a birth certificate, and wiil enquire over irish liks and update you of any progress. john

[john finnegan]

thanks Bert,you could be right i will have a word with a Douglas Bradley his son to see if he can remember so far back. john