Were there any Children

[dickiesam]

Gareth, I am of the firm opinion that the 1871 census find by Bert is the right one for Mary Ann and daughter Ellen.

Great find Bert...
The location fits with being a mariner's wife, especially if he was still RN.
10 Cumberland Street, Southampton, Southampton, Hampshire.

The daughter could be one of these two. FreeBMD gave up only these for 1855 to 1857.... A year before the marriage too...
Births Mar 1855:
Fletcher Ellen - W Derby 8b 379
Fletcher Ellen - W Derby 8b 402

I believe the 'Hiton' written in the birthplace on the Census Summary for Ellen actually refers to her mother on the previous line.

As for the 'any children issue', if Ellen's birth was registered it would worth taking a punt at the above 1855 births. Just enter the name and year but tick the No Box which asks if the GRO Reference is known. Then you can enter the parents' names. If the GRO don't get a match they will refund the fee in full.

[gf27]

Thanks DS.
Yes I think I will take your advice and have a punt at Bert's find, nothing to loose really.
A late thank you to Lillian. It is unusual to open your account with help to other members, so well done you

Take care. Gareth.

[gf27]

Sorry to drag this thread up again. I have found this baptism Record for a Ellen Ann Fletcher. 23 September 1855. St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire. Mother Mary,
Father Thomas. Mary just called Mary not Mary Ann, but look at Ellen's second name. So do you think I should investigate this one too?

Thanks. Gareth.

[MaryA]

Only if you have clues to point to the family being in Rochdale which is about 30-40 miles away from Liverpool

[dickiesam]

Only if you have clues to point to the family being in Rochdale which is about 30-40 miles away from Liverpool

Totally agree. You need to find a connection. And check out this out... The father is an iron worker not a mariner.

1861: RG09 Piece 3037 Folio 69 Page 40
Address: 4 Milk Street, Castleton, Rochdale.
Thomas Fletcher Head 30 1831 Iron Moulder - Rochdale
Mary Fletcher Wife 29 1832 Iron Moulder Wife - Rochdale
Ellen Ann Fletcher Dtr 6 1855 Scholar - Rochdale
Emily Jane Fletcher Dtr 4 1857 Scholar - Rochdale
Josh Thos Fletcher Son 1 1860 Scholar - Rochdale

1871: RG10 Piece 4118 Folio 53 Page 11
Address: 16 Monmouth Street, Castleton, Rochdale
Thomas Fletcher Head 40 1831 Moulder - Lancashire
Mary Fletcher Wife 39 1832 - Lancashire
Ellen Ann Fletcher Dtr 15 1856 - Lancashire
Emily Jane Fletcher Dtr 14 1857 - Lancashire
Joseph Thomas Fletcher Son 11 1860 - Lancashire
Sarah Elizabeth Fletcher Dtr 3 1868 - Lancashire
Margaret Fletcher Dtr 8 1863 - Lancashire
Alfred Fletcher Son 0 1871 - Lancashire

[gf27]

Thank you both. Yes at this point I should go back to the West Derby Ellen's, and take the advice of DS when applying to the GRO for the BC.

I promise now to leave the subject alone
Thanks. Gareth.

[dickiesam]

I promise now to leave the subject alone
Thanks. Gareth.

It's like a itch that is always there and you have the need to scratch! LOL

[MaryA]

There's no harm in looking all around the subject and worth ruling out some of your thoughts which is what DS has done here. You never know they may have got about a bit, but it wouldn't seem likely at this point.